Why Isn’t Ant-Man In Avengers?

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Why Isn’t Ant-Man In <i>Avengers</i>?  

Despite persistent rumors that Nathan Fillion would play Ant-Man in The Avengers movie, when the cast was introduced Saturday at Comic-Con International, the actor was nowhere to be seen.

That’s despite a misunderstood comment on Friday by Joss Whedon that led many fans to believe they’d see the Firefly star don Henry Pym’s cybernetic helmet. “Nathan Fillion is Ant-Man,” the director said during “The Joss Whedon Experience,” adding, “Unfortunately Ant-Man isn’t really in the movie.” Fillion later clarified on Twitter: “Joss’ comment: Funny and very clearly a joke. People hear: Whatever they wanna hear.”

“Unfortunately there is no such thing as sarcasm at Comic-Con,” Whedon explained to io9.com. “That’s why I explained that he’s not actually Ant-Man — although, by the way, I think he would be great — Ant-Man does not appear in The Avengers. I just like to play with Nathan. And if you ever get a chance to ask him to do his Ant-Man audition, you will not be disappointed.”

So the question is, Why isn’t Ant-Man in The Avengers? After all, Pym was one of the founders of the team, along with Iron Man, Thor, the Incredible Hulk and the Wasp. He was also one the original members of The Ultimates, the modern reimagining of the Avengers that so prominently featured Samuel L. Jackson cast in the role of Nick Fury.

The answer lies with the script for Edgar Wright’s much-discussed Ant-Man movie.

“I talked to [Marvel Studios President] Kevin Feige about that a while back where we just discussed about whether he would be in The Avengers,” Wright told Cinema Blend at Comic-Con. “The thing is, the script that I’ve written, you know, whether it’s next or not I don’t know, the chronology of it or the way it works wouldn’t really fit in with what they do. And my film is very much an introduction to that character, and so it wasn’t something where it felt right to introduce him in that film. Maybe if I do the solo Ant-Man film and maybe there’s a later Avengers then they could draft him in later. But it didn’t work with the kind of the angle that we were going to do with the origin that I’d written.”

So what about the Wasp, a character whose history with the Avengers extends as far back as Ant-Man’s? If she is in The Avengers, she likely won’t be played by Eva Longoria, the name most frequently mentioned in online gossip.

“I keep hearing about that,” Longoria told SuperHeroHype on Tuesday. “I think it’s an Internet rumor as of now. … I love comics stuff. I do, I think it’s fun, but I don’t know anything about that character. I don’t know who or what that is.”

We do know, however, that The Avengers will star Robert Downey Jr., Chris Evans, Chris Hemsworth, Samuel L. Jackson, Scarlett Johansson, Mark Ruffalo, Jeremy Renner and Clark Gregg. The film opens on May 4, 2012.

  • Krysmo

    plus adding to the legion of replies before: Annoyance, Ant-Man mos' def' IS a founding member of the Avengers. He even beats Captain America who's more associated with the Avengers than probably anyone.

  • Eva Ginger

    antman and wasp will be in his own movie then as giant man in avengers 2.

  • ALAN WAYNE

    Being 55, I read the 1st issue of the Avengers at the time. While very happy to see my childhood Marvel heroes coming to life, it is a shame that Ant-Man and, therefore, Wasp do not appear to be included in the line-up. In the last panel of the 1st issue, it is indeed Janet van Dyne (Wasp) who comes up with the name of the group in the first place, so, in my opinion, deserves her place in the cinematic history being created.
    ALAN W IN LONDON, ENGLAND

  • Wilburpenguin

    Let me get this right – Hawkeye and Black Widow are in it but Henry Pym isn't? That's ridiculous. Black Widow was less than useless in Iron Man II and Hawkeye is a Green Arrow rip-off. What could be more impressive than a sixty foot Hank climbing over New York skyscrapers?

  • Opinionated

    Alan Tudyk would be a better much choice for Pym than Fillion.

  • Opinionated

    “much better” heh

  • OhNo!

    Wow, it sucks that they're so attached to this Edgar Wright script that they're willing to ignore Pym as a founding member of the avengers, while I understand that a guy who can control ants and shrink down to their size might not seem like much next to Thor or Iron Man in Marvel's more “realistic” film universe, it still sucks, and he could be used in many different ways.

    Specially because Wright's script depicts Pym as the 60's Ant-Man, and Scott Lang as the modern one, which means that we'll probably never get Hank Pym as an avenger.

    Quite disappointed.

  • Taughe

    Avengers 101….Yes Antman is an original Avenger.

  • Madmike

    The reason Ant-man isn't in the movie, is because unless you need a dude to talk to ants, he's pretty much useless. Sure he comes in handy answering the phone and making coffee and stuff, but honestly? You've got Iron Man, the Hulk, and Thor! Hell, the only reason they got Hawkeye in there was so that Captain America wouldn't feel like tits on a bull.

    Ant-Man should call Aquaman and form “The Legion Of Occasionally Useful Heroes.”

  • Wilburpenguin

    Why the **** doesn't Edgar Wright get on with it. He's been talking it up for years. If he doesn't want to do it, pass it up.

  • TIM SNIPES

    i`m mad that the avenger`s movie won`t be true to the comic book!!!!! REALLY MADDDDDDD.

  • TIM SNIPES

    YOU NEED TO REREAD YOUR COMIC`S SON. THOR,HULK,IRON MAN, ANT MAN, AND THE WASP. CAPTAIN AMERICA JOINED IN ISSUE 4. HULK LEFT IN ISSUE 2 I BELIEVE. AND EVERYONE RETIRED EXCEPT FOR CAP IN ISSUE 8 I THINK. THAT`S WHEN HAWKEYE, QUICKSILVER AND THE SCARLET WITCH JOINED.

  • Jdd1369

    Who's Ant-man?

  • cago

    you read ultimates dont you? cause thats not the real Pym

  • Plotkin Joshua

    What the fuck! Ant man and the Wasp are not only founding Avengers, they are also the ones that beat Loki in the first issue of the Avengers. The pointy hat wearing fool was so distracted by the big hitters (Thor, Iron Man, and Hulk), that he did not notice the army of ants until they trapped him in a container.

  • Plotkin Joshua

    What the fuck! Ant man and the Wasp are not only founding Avengers, they are also the ones that beat Loki in the first issue of the Avengers. The pointy hat wearing fool was so distracted by the big hitters (Thor, Iron Man, and Hulk), that he did not notice the army of ants until they trapped him in a container.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NE42HXOYN2UQ66QMAZAPGFHFHY Argus

    Antman is a founder member. Captain america is not. Did ya even read the article above before you posted Minor annyoance? atleast your appropriately named lol

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NE42HXOYN2UQ66QMAZAPGFHFHY Argus

    Well they were until Hawkeye became Giantman for a while in the comic lol

  • FlashAtomRoguesAntmanWasp

    I’m guessing–that along with what was stated as evidence in the above article–they just didn’t want to have to mess with all of the special effects required for small people on screen. ESPECIALLY in action movies with lots of people all over the place.

  • Howardkd

     Actually, he was.  Check the classic Marvel books that had the Avengers start up with Iron man, Thor, The Wasp, and Giant Man.  Also recruited was the Incredible Hulk, but he didn’t stay.

  • Howardkd

     Point of fact: It was Hank Pym as Giant Man helped to found the Avengers.  He later assumed other super powered persona’s: Ant Man, Yellow Jacket.

  • Suarezdaniel25

    UMMMMMMM YES HE IS! HE WORKED WITH S.H.I.E.L.D BEFORE IRON MAN EVEN EXISTED!