In Defense Of The New Buffy

I’m with you on this one. Season 8 (the comics) was a complete disaster, so anyone who wants to put Joss Whedon up on a pedestal can go right ahead I suppose. I’d be interested to see what Whit Anderson can do though!

Okay, I can’t really be that snarky, but I’ve got something to say because I can’t find anyone else really saying it.

Nothing you say is unconscionable. In fact, it’s pretty reasonable. But since WHEN is anything about Buffy reasonable? We skirt this fact in posts and commentary all over the web–the fact that in saying nothing could ever amount to Joss & Co. on Buffy what we’re really saying is

WE WANT JOSS & CO!! Is it so hard to admit that we fans take it personally that we LOVED something so hard, and all we want is to see them one more time. A very good graphic representation of Nicky Brendon and Sarah Michelle Gellar is NOT Nicky Brendon and Sarah Michelle Gellar.

I love parts of season 8–it’s a novel idea that has made me smile at times. When the art and the dialogue beautifully evoke the spirit of the characters it’s awesome, but we all know deep down that it’s not what we want. What we want if for the Kuzuis to wake up one morning and in a uncharacteristic, nigh mystical fit of altruism GIVE US BACK OUR GIRL.

And it’s probably not going to happen. Ever. And now we have to deal with Whit, talented as she may be.

And Dollhouse rocked–beautiful disaster of the first kind.

The thing is: WHY make a reboot at all? I think what people want to see is maybe a continuation of the original TV-series in a series of films. That’s probably never going to happen except for in comic book pages. But if it does happen I think Whedon should do it. It’s his baby.
If this new reboot turns out to be a turkey, this probably will be the end of the whole concept.

Joss Whedon created Buffy. To make a reboot without him is disrespectful. No one should be supporting this. It’s underhanded move.

I agree that I would like to see a Whedon-Buffy movie, but writers/creators change all the time (be it comics or tv shows or movies). Why should Buffy be any different? Calling it disrespectful is ignorant and unrealistic. It’s not like the ratings support a bid for a movie as is (despite a hardcore fan base). Probably we should give it a chance (though I suspect it is going to be awful).

Now Buffy versus Twilight – that is an idea!

But isn’t that like saying: ‘Stan Lee created Spider-man. He should be making the films and/or writing the comics now-a-days?

What a load of rubbish, this buffy reboot is gonna fail! Buffy without Whedon, Gellar and the rest of the Scooby Gang aint Buffy!

Personally, I think that the biggest issue ISN’T who is and isn’t working on this film, but the context in which it’s being worked on. This film is being made in a time when Twilight is a major cash cow that others are trying to emulate. And ultimately, if you take out the ensemble/”Scoobies” in Buffy the Vampire Slayer (which the studio has said they will do), Buffy can EASILY look like a Twilight wannabe if written and produced by the wrong people. And this isn’t to say that Whit Anderson is the wrong person– we just don’t know, and that’s scary as all hell.

So ultimately, the fear isn’t simply that Joss Whedon isn’t working on it, but the franchise which “properly” portrayed vampires will betray the people who have stood by it against the hoard of Twilight fangirls and try to be what we all dislike.

Now, does that constitute anger from fans? No… not at all (or at least not yet), given that this is all pure speculation. But I am certainly beyond afraid and not looking forward to its production.

You’re going to burn in fanboy hell.

Just kidding… I don’t see anything wrong with the reboot either.

I was stubbornly against the new BSG “on principle” and was finally worn down by friends and/or critics who raved about the series.

It’s possible this new Buffy could fall into the same category.

As someone who has grown weary of the “official fan fiction” that is Season 8, I would not mind seeing a new interpretation.

Look, I’m not opposed to a new Buffy, well I am, but I am willing to give it a shot. If you get the right people and the right story it could be good. I think the overall point of the fan community is that Joss expanded this unverse and included so many memorable situations and fantastic characters that it would be impossible to replicate. The new Buffy would throw all that out and go back to the movie which was c+ at best.
Again I can be wrong, I enjoyed the Italian Job with Marky Mark even though it had absolutly nothing to do with the original other than they referenced it as a movie and kept the minis. It was enjoyable and made me get over the fact that the original and remake are two seperate properties. However the polar opposite of that is “Posieden” the original was fantastic and had a wonderful element of god vs man vs survival that was completely destroyed by the remake. This is what we are afraid of, if they remake it and make it good then more power to them, but if they simply line up the elements and water it down, it would set new hights for horribleness.

The First movie of buffy the vampire slayer was crap, But The Tv Series Staring Sarah Michelle Gellar, David Boreanaz, Nicholas Brendon, Alyson Hannigan, Anthony Head, James Marsters Well i was massive fan if they an love the series comic etc but if they carried on where the series left off an had the orginial cast reprise there roles it would be amazing And i would love to watch a buffy movie an have Joss whedon have some take an say on which direction the movie goes etc

Joss Whedon has been employed many, many, times to rewrite other writers scripts and with other writers characters. Speed, Toy Story, Waterworld, Alien Reserrection for example.
And on Buffy as head writer he rewrote many of the scripts written for the show by other writers.
Why can he re writer others writers work but no one should be able to write Buffy?
I’m a huge Whedon fan and suspect this movie, if it ever gets made, will suck. But Whit Anderson has done nothing wrong and I’d do the same if I were in her position.

It’s hard enough to get people to understand why BtVS the series was so great when they only have knowledge of the movie. This is just going to make it more difficult. It also highlights the problem with intellectual property rights in Hollywood. Joss created Buffy.

Someone else, especially a noob like Whit Anderson, shouldn’t be contaminating it with their vision. Seriously? This noob thinks she can write as well as Joss? Pretty arrogant of everyone involved.

Here’s the deal:
BUFFY hasn’t even been off the TV for 10 years. A TRUE reboot would wait at least 20-30 years. Let the ORIGINAL show have it’s time, THEN come back and do what needs to be done. As well, a TRUE reboot would have the blessing of the creator at the very minimum.

This “project” will never be accepted by fans of Whedon’s work. Why? Because HE doesn’t accept it, or give it permission to exist. There’s no way those of us dedicated to the man that brought stuff like Buffy will ever accept this garbage from a kid that has NO true respect for the show whatsoever. If she did, she would listen to what was said and stop work on it.

You completely missed the point. ‘Buffy’ was created by Joss Whedon, and neither he nor any of the cast have shown the slightest support for this movie. Even worse, the only people involved with it are the mercinary Kuzui’s who ruined the original movie by sucking any of the obvious talent that we quickly saw from the TV series out of the film. Even, even worse, this has none of the supporting cast that made the TV series work, and therefore would suggest that it would make more sense to rename the main character, and allow people to come into it fresh and able to appreciate anything original they can bring to the concept. Instead, what they are doing is trading on the Buffy name in the worst type of cynicism towards the fans, assuming that they will flock to see something that has no connection in the slightest towards the television series.

No. Everything about the concept is unreasonable. They have essentially spat in the face of Joss Whedon by not even discussing this with him, and in the face of the fans they seek to exploit by proposing a film that won’t include anything that has anything to do with the original series. It may bear the same name, but, really, if you buy a computer game you’ve waited to play for months, and when you get home you find another equally good game in the box instead, most people would still take it back because it isn’t what you asked for.

also keep in mind that this isn’t a sequel but a reboot. it’s its own continuity. don’t like it? ignore it, just like you’d ignore the eric bana hulk or a crappy comic book run.

No. Joss Whedon was the last guy to work on ‘Buffy’ in any format, and he made the entire concept as popular as it was, and he is still available and working – in fact, working on concepts far more popular and well-known than ‘Buffy’ with ‘The Avengers’. But the fact is that no-one seems to have even given him a call or mentioned it in passing. Meanwhile, Stan Lee was still involved with Marvel and Spider-Man long, long after he left the comic, and was involved with the films, even if it was just a cameo and meeting the people making them.

I’m pretty sure they call the person a ‘vampire’ rather than a ‘corpse’ because they are a ‘vampire’ and not a ‘corpse’. Therefore, Buffy and Bella are paraphiliacs – paraphilia being an attraction to vampires. Necrophilia is completely different.

The thing that comes to mind is Star Wars. It was iconic. An enormous part of a huge number of people’s lives. Buffy may not be quite as big but in terms of effect it’s not unreasonable to mention them in the same sentence. “At worst an easily ignorable addition”… The Star Wars prequels killed an institution for a lot of people. The death of a Titan in the name of profit. Whit Anderson may in fact be the spiritual successor to Kubrick, but there’s a fairly large chance she won’t be and if the movie tanks, for whatever reason, then it’ll be another reason for perenially risk-averse Hollyweird not to trust unknowns and up-and-comers. Another reason to retreat into the realm of generic teen movies with busty starlets. BTW If looks and fame don’t make Hollywood tick then how do you explain Paris Hilton?

It wasn’t just Joss who made Buffy what it was. All the talent that made Buffy are loyal to Joss, except for the cashing in Kuzui freak shows. AND, they have no talent. I can pick up the snap of Espenson, the gravitas of Fury and the sauciness of Noxon in Buffy. WHAT DID THE KUZUI’S actually do? Part of the original and namesakes on the series. Nothing on the DVD extra’s, nothing in print, nothing anecdotally. They have no grasp of the Buffy universe. If Noxon or Fury asked Joss if they could do it and he said “sure, go ahead” I would love to see it. This is a kick in the knickers and it will not be appreciated by anyone with a brain.

I disagree STRONGLY abt Season Eight. Season six was a disatser. Season eight was very well written and had quality writers.

It doesn’t matter what they call the revenant. It still meets the definition of corpse. Animated or not.

I agree with this. I did like the series, but I preferred Sierra and Victor to Echo. Week after week, it was like, “Faith’s an FBI agent! Faith’s going to a party! Faith’s running through the desert!”