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Kurt Sutter, the lord and master of all things Sons of Anarchy, is one of those show runners that doesn’t stay quiet when something huge happens on his series. When characters die, he explains why. When the boys of SAMCRO are thrown for a loop, Sutter swoops in and points out some of the paths this twist may lead. It’s refreshing, to say the least, particularly when many show runners — we’re looking at you, Darlton — remain frustratingly silent at times, some refusing to comment on their shows altogether.
Thankfully, Sutter’s lips are flapping about last night’s episode of Sons of Anarchy. The episode, titled “NS,” was a 90-minute affair that marked the end of the smash hit FX series’ third season. Not always the most critically adored of the show’s three years, this past season definitely had its rocky moments in addition to some truly standout episodes, like last night’s season finale.
Speaking with E! Online, Sutter covered a wide range of issues including his feelings on the Ireland storyline, why he decided to kill a certain main character, and what’s ahead in season four. Needless to say, major spoilers lurk ahead for those of you who didn’t see the finale yet.
On bringing SAMCRO to Ireland:
Going to Ireland this year was something I’ve always wanted to do since the conception of the show, I knew we were going to do an arc that would bring us to the roots of the club and gun-running and bring to the surface the dilemma of John Teller. We needed to get information out of Ireland that advanced the series, in the form of those letters [from John Teller to Maureen]. In the big arc of the series that we needed to play all that stuff out.
But I get it. I understand [the fan reaction]. People are really plugged into our guys and I think we spent a lot of time on new characters like Kellan (James Cosmo) and Jimmy O (Titus Welliver), and I was fascinated by all that stuff, and the thematic stuff of the IRA and outlaws—to me it was all fascinating stories to tell—but I think ultimately people just wanted to be in Charming with our guys, and get back to more of what we did the first two seasons. I always understand that. There’s always a risk when you go outside the box a little bit.
On killing Agent June Stahl, played brilliantly for three seasons by Ally Walker:
It’s interesting. I brought the character in after Agent Kohn (Jay Karnes) died, as a different kind of nemesis, and I really never envisioned the character expanding the way it has, and that’s really as a result of Ally Walker. She just brought the crazy eyes!
We had conversations early on that she has these very masculine qualities but that she’s also very overt about her sexuality, and she’s just a different kind of animal than you’ve seen before in terms of female law enforcement. Ally brought that on gangbusters. …
There were some comments about her becoming too much of a sociopath, but to me it’s always fascinating when you see that happen in law-enforcement agents, that they can ultimately become more evil than the evil they’re pursuing. And we set her up from the jump that she was a person that lived out of the box anyhow, and she would go to any lengths to get what she wanted.
Will Jax and his SAMCRO allies still be in prison when season four begins?
There will definitely be a gap in time. I haven’t decided if we’ll start with them in jail and getting out or if we’ll begin with them already out of jail, but we’re not going to spend half a season or a season in jail. Sons is not going to become Oz.
What will Charming look like in 14 months?
It’ll be a different Charming. There will be a new mayor and a new sheriff. The 21st century is going to land at SAMCRO’s doorstep. It’ll be interesting, because the 21st century will also bleed into their lives. The gun business will be exponentially bigger as a result of the Irish deal, so they themselves will be upgrading, but everything else around them will also be changing. Not that I’m thematically trying to make a big point in terms of all that, but Charming really has been Mayberry—it’s been an anachronism, and in my mind, we’ll start to see that shift, and how do they handle that shift. Do they try to throw the brakes on it? Do they embrace it? What happens to the big fish when the pond starts to get bigger?
Are Jax and Tara having a boy or a girl?
Uh…I haven’t decided on that, but I’ll say this: It is the Sons of Anarchy.
Sutter revealed other details, including the fact that former police chief Wayne Unser (Dayton Callie) will be back on the show, though expect less face time from Happy (David LaBrava) and Kozik (Kenny Johnson).
So, what did you think of the season finale? I personally loved it, even if I wasn’t wild about the season as a whole, and even though I was sad to see Agent Stahl kick the bucket — yes, I know she was a monster, but what a monster indeed — it felt like her time had come, and I’m glad it was Opie (Ryan Hurst) who got to pull the trigger. Tell us what you thought of the finale in the comments section below!