Why The X-Men: First Class Images May Mean Trouble For The Movie

I TOTALLY agree with you! REBOOT and RELEASE. Period. Oh yeah, and the Sentinels were cool as hell. Beyond that, X3 was gar-bage.

there hasn’t been an xmen movie at all the movies that had the label xmen were all wolverine movies. Wolverine stopped magneto in the first film and had a solo fight scene wit Sabartooth. in X2 he has the solo fight scene with lady deathstrike and then lead the team to escape the dam before it flooded. then in x3 took on the the brotherhood and killed Jean.

the Xmen is about Jean, Cyclops, Rogue, Iceman, Xavier not just wolverine however in X3 its clear thats the only person this movie is about as Angel only had 2 scenes same for Colossus. Rogue’s story wasn’t much or the the suppose love triangle with her Iceman and Shadowcat. and the total lack of respect for Storm who while writing this I forgot was even in the film and was suppose to be leader of the team but was actually again Wolverine

honestly surprised Wolverine doesnt find away into this film, I only seen Wolverine once and it was horrible and hopefully the next Wolverine will have a better story it ruined Deadpool (as marvel saw fit to make several Deadpool comics so people knew the real merc wit a mouth)

the xmen series under Fox has been an utter disaster

No, Its not about the company “making money” you twit. BATMAN BEGINS made money and was GOOD. Dark Knight made money and was GREAT! Avatar made money and SUCKED! Its not about making money. That is s the bottom line: make cash. It is about making money at the expense of a franchise and a book some of us happen to know and love. You are obviously one of those MTV genre fanboys that is only in to masturbate to Emma Frost onscreen like a liettle boy who never got any.

I haven’t seen ‘X-Men 3′ because, despite loving the first two, the trailer seemed like a dull rip-off of Whedon’s ‘Astonishing X-Men’, which I had only just read at the time and had little interest in paying for the privelege of seeing something so similar, so soon. In addition, the FX on Angel’s wings, the reports of the film having a huge amount of characters they seemed to be forcing into the film, and the fact that I heard before it came out that Cyclops and Professor X were going to die, and Storm would have an expanded role and a relationship with Wolverine, were all deal-breakers for me. It seemed that they not only misunderstood the comics and the characters, but threw the character arcs that were central to the first two movies under the bus.

However, as for a value-judgement on the film itself, as I say, I have never seen it. I see bits of it whilst flicking through the channels on TV, and what I did see seemed kind of cheap and stagey standard action b.s, instead of the deliberate mutants-as-outcasts metaphor that Singer placed at the heart of ‘X-Men 2′ (which is considered the best one by critics, as well as me – it should be noted that the consensus of most critics seems to be that ‘X-Men’ is just a prolonged trailer for the second film, and I find it hard to disagree).

‘Wolverine’, on the other hand, I have seen, and suffers the exact same problem that the Marvel comics character now suffers – his origin was always going to be far, far duller than the mysterious past angle, as someone with a mysterious past tends to be more interesting because that cast could be anything, and every character could have something to do with them. When you tell the story, the possibilities dry up (on a related note, what is it with Marvel of the present and origin stories? Stan Lee recognised that the origin story isn’t as good as actually getting on with the main story, and he created mutants so that he wouldn’t have to create an origin story for every character).

Anyway, you asked for valid reasons why the film is bad, and so here is one, and it is also the reason why I think ‘Inception’, whilst technically good, is also pretty poor: it violates its own rules in order to advance the plot, and many of the things that happen in the film ask you to suspend your disbelief far too much. For example, it establishes that Wolverine has these hyper-senses, but at key points in the film he doesn’t use them. They can say it is because of grief, at one point, but whenever someone close to me has died I don’t suddenly lose the ability to smell, or hear, or see. Then there is the bullet in the head that robs Wolverine of his memories, which just seems to be an event that is followed by the film going, “It happened cos’ I said so. Anyway, shut up, we have to get the running time down.” Generally, the memories are stored around the outside of the brain, which is why a bang on the head causes temporary memory loss, so to cause such memory loss using a bullet is physically impossible. Then there is the fact that Sabertooth is suddenly Wolverine’s brother… Yet he didn’t seem to mention this in the first film, when it could have helped him battle Wolverine? It actually manages to make other films worse by its very existence.

Then there is the reliance on certain tropes, such as the walking away from the explosion shot, that have been used so much that at this point they are approaching the level of parody due to over-familiarity.

Not only that, but the fact is that the “fanboys” are the films bread-and-butter. They are the ones who will generate the positive word of mouth when the film is released, and they are the ones the film needs to satisfy first and foremost. You can argue that a major release needs to be able to appeal to a wider audience, but there is also the argument that you are making this film because of the source material and the fan-base showing they are willing to spend. Yet this is the first group you dismiss as unimportant? They really thought that making the Merc-With-A-Mouth a superpowered, laser-eyed, mute would help them generate interest in the character that would lead to a spin-off? Plus, did any of us really care where Wolverine got his leather jacket from? Was that really the kind of mystery that needed explaining?

i think the picture looks fine you people really need to look at yourselves in the mirror and look at your own flaws before coming on here and pointing out everyone elses ok .

I don’t know if that’s really insulting to Rogue’s character since it was lifted from Seagle’s run on Uncanny X-Men in which a cure machine was developed and she DID seek it out to cure her mutant powers; it was only Mystique’s interference that stopped her in the end.

first off how can you say all this just from pictures and some news that might or might not be true come on now all you comic book people are just picky just wait till you see a trailer or hell the fucking movie cause you guys ahting on it isnt stoping production so yeah

Bryan Singer is anything but an artist man he went and raped our memories and then you go and call him an artist what was hitler then a poet look to me the whole x-men franchise just seemed like a big”what-if”comic just another alternate earth-10whatever,if anyone should be bringing art to these films it will be darrenofsky doesnt mean im not giving this one a chance…

Read Ebert’s review of both movies. He does a good job spelling it out. Also, art is subjective and therefore some people like things while others don’t. There’s probably no answer that you’re going to accept here.

Making definitive conclusions about whether the movie will be any good based on a couple of still photos is monumentally premature. But that’s par for the course for Internet fandom.

Calling Bryan Singer an “artist” does a disservice to art. It’s like trying to compare his total crap to Leonardo DaVinci. It doesn’t hold up. I suppose it’s about as much “art” as the typical primary school student could dredge together.

That being said, compared to Brett Ratner, Bryan Singer IS Leonardo DaVinci.

It can’t possibly be worse than X3

Love this comment. So True, and it made me Laugh Out Loud for real!

First class looks awful, there isn’t a single character in the movie that remotely holds my interest and on top of that their including Azazel?!?! The on plot line most readers want retconned and they’re putting it in the film? Unbelievable!

All 3 X-men sucked … Wolverine Sucked … and this X-men movie is gonna suck worst than the previous titles… 60′s huh / Havok is gonna be older that Cyclops … Emma Frost is gonna be in her 30′s in the60′s huh… Fox won’t be happy till they completely destroy the X-men franchise … I hope this movie CRASHES and BURNS badly … Im a Fox employee and I still wanna see this burn… Stop treating us the fans , like we’re stupid by making these stupid watered down flicks… Its insulting to us that have read the books…

Well said..

If you think X-3 made sense- I won’t argue.. But to say that it didn’t have HUGE holes in logic, you’re thinking very wishfully..

I won’t argue with anyone that enjoyed X-3 more than the previous 2( I love Kung Fu Hustle, and it makes no sense whatso ever)..

But I feel X-3 cashed in on a lot of action, but sacrificed the future of the franchise at the same time.. It’s played just about all of the great plot points of the X-men storyline, all at once- and not very well.

riq

Filmmakers are really missing the mark on Superhero movie sequels. They need to either make the movie they want to make OR they need to give the fans everything they want. Not this in-between crap.
Examples:
X-men 3: Fans wanted Dark Phoenix, Filmmakers wanted Angel/Cure/Alcatraz – Combine to make crap
Spider-man 3: Fans wanted Venom, Filmmakers wanted Sandman – Combine to make crap

Fans have wanted Gambit in the X-men movies since day 1. So Filmmakers throw him in the middle of a Wolverine prequel? He was THE worst portrayal of a beloved comic character on film (cards flying off his hand, climbing a wall with a busted stick, Helicoptering, and flying through a piece of concrete,.. all were gay and not Gambit).

This X-men movie doesn’t look like anything the fans wanted to see, and doesn’t sound like Filmmakers are all too excited either. That’s a double whammy.

Filmmakers have forgotten to make good movies instead of just comic book movies. Christopher Nolin is the only one to figure this out.

Would a Carnaby Street/Mary Quant vibe be commercial suicide? The design aesthetic of that era looks great on film. Would a contemporary audience be turned off by period-set action film? Honestly, having seen the Captain America “Entertainment Weekly” cover and the jumpsuit outfit, the “Thor” stills, and some of those Star Wars cantinaish GL characters…these “First Class” images seem the most fun and interesting. Intriguing. MacAvoy and Jones –maybe it’ll be as shabby as the “Generation X” tv movie w/ Finola Hughes, but I don’t get the same “Glitter”/”Showgirls” vibe. I see an under-the-radar British film. Which may in fact be commercial suicide, but also very entertaining.

I didn’t know or care that Cyclops was dead. He just was and the story (rightfully so in fact) had to keep on moving(remember he was the “dick” of the movie). The only one who would care Xavier(dead) and Jean(mind f*ck by the phoenix, although that may have been her weakness and only means of being controlled in that the lost left her vulnerable.

It’s true those characters were developed but their individual story arcs may not have fit into the overall story as well. There were so many characters and a story to be told there, IMO there was not enough time to work in the all the arcs of all the past characters and introduce the newer “cooler” characters and play through the plot anymore effectively then what was done.

Btw, I’ve seen much much worst then X3. All that other jazz you mention is completely irrelevant to the comprehension level of the story being to told.

You are clearly 12. Or poorly misinformed.

If knew anything about film-making, writing or any general respect for X-Men, you would have disliked this movie. It was a mess. The writing was terrible and it was sloppily thrown together.

Yes, there were some enjoyable moments, but not enough to be an outstanding movie. Have you noticed this theme on the thread where pretty much is calling out that you’re wrong? We’re listening to your side of the story, but you don’t seem to give three shits about what anyone else thinks. Maybe you should educate yourself a little on this stuff.

Oh god I couldn’t agree more about Remy!

x3 was the worst movie ever…brent ratner should be pulled out into the street and shot..thats it..did he ever read a x-men comic or was he to busy shooting another lames ass rush hour movie.