Please, Mr. Schwarzenegger: No More Terminator

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Please, Mr. Schwarzenegger: No More <i>Terminator</i>  

So, apparently Arnold Schwarzenegger’s announcement of a return to acting has prompted new interest in resurrecting his signature franchise, The Terminator. And while we all know that said time-traveling cyborg is keen to announce that he will be back, isn’t it time to ask him to reconsider? Can’t The Terminator just stay away?

I’m not going to argue that the first two Terminator movies are exactly what you want movies about time-traveling cyborgs trying to change history to their advantage to be (I will admit that I much, much prefer the first to the second. There’s something about Edward Furlong, I’m sorry), but, come on people: Terminator 3 and Terminator: Salvation are both horrible messes of movies that run the charm and invention of the first two into the ground and then keep going (There are those who think that McG’s Salvation was a bold reinvention of the series, but for the most part, they’re either mistaken or insane).

It’d be ridiculous in this day and age to suggest that we carefully and respectfully lay the franchise to rest and remember it fondly (Any world where The Black Hole and Tron manage to make a comeback is one where someone will always be trying to make a Terminator movie, for better or – let’s be honest – worse. In fact, Deadline reports that Universal is looking into bringing the franchise back as a vehicle for The Fast and The Furious franchise director Justin Lin, while the co-writer of the first two movies has an outline doing the rounds for his take on the fifth and sixth installments in the series. But if we have to have another Terminator movie, does it have to have Schwarzenegger in it?

Yes, I know that Schwarzenegger is the face of the Terminator and everything, and yes, I know that the Schwarzenegger-less Salvation felt more like a generic future-dystopia-fighting-machines movie than a Terminator movie. But! But neither have to be true, and it’d be nice to think that neither will be true when the inevitable next Terminator hits theaters. Here’s why:

Arnold Schwarzenegger Is 64 years old
Yes, he looks good for being 64 years old, but still: I’d like to think that Skynet would model their unstoppable killing machines on someone who was at least born in the latter half of the 20th century. Also: If the Terminators are (a) artificial and (b) able to change their shape, why would they all look the same anyway, never mind like someone who should be retired already?

Terminator: Salvation Sucked Because It Forgot What Terminator Movies Are All About
You know what makes a Terminator movie a Terminator movie? It’s very simple math: Killer Robot + Time Travel. Alter the math – like in Salvation, for example (Killer Robot X 1,000,000 + Kooky Christian Bale) – and it’s just not the same (Terminator 3, for all it’s horror, was at least recognizable as a Terminator movie). You don’t need Schwarzenegger to do Terminator, but you do need time travel.

Thing is, there’s almost no way that whoever ends up making the next Terminator movie won’t want Schwarzenegger at least for a cameo – Who could turn up that piece of fan service, after all – and so, fittingly, only one man can make a difference here. Mr. Schwarzenegger, you’ve saved the fictional world countless times, you’ve surprisingly lead California without it resulting in the destruction of that state in a pyrotechnic display worthy of James Cameron, but now it’s time to show what you’re really made of: Are you strong enough to say no when they ask you to reprise your most famous role, to give Terminator a chance at new life?

  • Bill Reed

    However, the world DOES want more Kindergarten Cop. Make it happen!

  • http://twitter.com/shawnrichison shawn richter

    I don’t think another take on terminator would necessarily be a bad thing. I did enjoy both T3 and Salvation, but the beauty of Terminator is that we don’t need to follow any particular path here. It’s a time travel movie… it can go anywhen. As well, the make up and CGI is available for de-ageing Schwarzenegger – all he really needs to do is provide the voice. In fact, he kind of made an appearance in Salvation, after all, and he wasn’t actually even in the movie! So if they want to do more Terminator, and it’s as least as good at the last two, I’ll buy a ticket.

    Also, Kindergarten Cop 2. That’s got my vote as well!

  • Mak

    I don’t think Time Traveling is required to make a great Terminator film. The actual idea of the film is that Skynet in the future is getting it’s but kick by humanity lead by John Conner. Skynet thinks that it would have a better chance at winning this war by eliminating the man it considers to it’s instigator in the past. Salvation is pretty much the story of how John Conner becomes that leader Skynet considers the threat. Plus why time travel when it seems that Skynet know that if they get rid of Kyle Reese before he goes back in time it can still win this war.

    Also too much time traveling becomes redundant. Time to change the formula and have something new for the series. Besides…. What’s to time travel to when you’re already in the future…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ciaran-Statham/1452184936 Ciaran Statham

    So the problem with Salvation was that it didn’t act like a good little franchise movie and follow the exact same formula as the other three? Given Terminator 3 was a piece of shit because it followed the formula laid down in 1 and 2, Salvation was great for what it did. I enjoyed seeing gaps filled in, personally, such as Connor’s assumption of leadership, the debut of the T-800, and other bits and pieces. That it had the grace to even acknowledge Terminator 3 was telling.

  • Mike

    Sorry, Mr. McMillan, but I don’t agree.

    The Terminator concept could certainly expand beyond the time-travel element, as long as the killer robots are still intact. Citing Terminator Salvation failure as the result of altering the math is just wrong. It wasn’t the best Terminator film, but it wasn’t that bad either, and the reason it failed wasn’t because of the math being altered, it just needed a better script and director (possibly a better lead actor, too). But I do think there’s plenty more that could be done with The Terminator franchise that doesn’t necessarily have to rely solely on Killer Robots and Time-Travel, but just with those concepts alone, it can still survive if done by the right people.

    Having said that, I’d like to see Arnold come back and get into roles more laid back, like detective or scientists roles. He ‘s just too old to play a killer robot, but maybe we can have him show up as one of the inventors The Terminator was originally modeled after.

  • Dpcoltx

    either wrong or insane? For having an opinion, someone is either wrong or insane. I think you just helped me come to a conclusion that I was seeking in another matter.

    Note: never saw Salvation, but it had to be better than T#.

    Note 2: Do you idolize Beck, O’Reily, or Olberman?

  • Dpcoltx

    that should be T3, not T#. sticky shift button…..

  • Mythos

    Bring back The Sarah Connor Chronicles instead. That TV show, despite its lower budget, managed to easily surpass the last two Terminator movies, despite the lack of Schwarzenegger.

  • JetpackComics

    I’ve never understood the hate for T3. It has excellent action and a kick ass ending. You people are never happy with anything. I say bring Arnie back as the character the terminators were modeled after in the future.

  • Drhiphop85

    this i agree with…i don’t wanna see Arnie as a Terminator…He has untapped potential in comedy…

  • JMC

    I agree – apart from the campy “talk to the hand” bit T3 was great. Terminator 4 was also an excellent, but somewhat convoluted film.

    Coming from someone neither insane or “mistaken” in their opinion (and what a SMUG, ARROGANT statement to make) feel free to bend over and kiss my Blarney Stone Graeme McMillan. You sir, are a schmuck!

  • Sequart

    I’m sure I’m in the minority here, but I very much enjoyed T3. It had most of the same elements that I loved from T2. It’s really not that different. In fact it’s pretty much the same formula. And while it’s bad for bands, following the same formula for action movies is not necessarily a bad thing.

  • Zatoichi

    Sarah Connor Chronicles had it right. You have to create a different story using the Terminator themes in order to be interesting. We don’t need a reprise. I don’t think too many directors are capable of topping James Cameron.