Could New Heroes Save NBC?

The fact of the matter is that the show fell apart after Brian Fuller left and Loeb was brought in. Loeb, being a comic book writer, wrote the show like a comic book i.e. all about the powers and over the top plot lines. This was the exact opposite of what the show originally was, which was more about the characters and their problems rather than their powers.It also didnt help that they clearly didnt have long term stories in mind. Both Peter and Sylar were both supposed to die at the end of the first season but since the show was so popular they kept them alive, and we all saw what happened there.

Yeah, it needs a lot longer cooling-off period, then when they bring it back it should be a reboot.

It’s funny that the guy heading Marvel TV is the one who killed the show: Jeph Loeb.

As it is, I don’t want to see that show ever again.

“Heroes” was a train-wreck that never needs to be resurrected again

I think that NBC will revive Heroes at some point, probably sooner than we think. Otherwise why would they keep the website up?

If I were writing as new episode of Heroes (something I thought about as a screenwriting student) I’d open with a guy sitting watching television, living a normal life with his powers unrevealed.

Then he sees Claire reveal the truth to the world.

And then I’d have this guy (plus characters new and old) have to deal with the fact that everyone now knows that they exist.

Because showing how these abilities affected normal peoples lives is what made the series great.

We don’t need to jump ahead in time and there is no real need to wait for a relauch.

I completely agree with this article. All Heroes needed was an infusion of new creative talent and it could easily have returned to the greatness of Season 1.

They had the building blocks of a great show, they just didn’t know how to use what they had.

I have not read what others are saying, however, maybe it’s time to just go a different direction with Heroes in that it is all new heroes and maybe some appearances once in a while with the older heroes making appearances. I would also like it to be set years later with the world aware there are these heroes.

The old story got stupid with the heroes losing their powers or having them drastically altered. To me that ruined the characters and destroyed the show. The idea of people with super powers to to exploit weaknesses and instead they just changed, altered or took away their powers. That is when I began hating this show.

That’s my two copper…

NBC doesn’t need Heroes. They now have one of the big 3. They now have Wonder Woman. They should try to put Wonder Woman in the same universe as the upcoming Green Lantern film and Superman film. It would add to the world and give the television show the feeling of being part of a world that was bigger and more epic. Ryan Reynolds and Henry Cavill should also guest star in a few episodes as Hal Jordan and Clark Kent respectively.

It would also be the start of putting the wheels in motion for a Justice League film.

I like the idea of Heroes coming back…. I hate that NBC didn’t finished the show the right way…. The Clair jump opened so many possibilities and nothing….. We’ll see if they listen to the advice…

At this point NBC is so low bringing back Heroes wouldn’t be so bad and
who knows it might even work.

Wonder Woman is only one of the “Big 3″ because of how long she’s been around. She’s easily the weakest character of the trio.

I absolutely agree, Paul. Having talked to Tim Kring personally about this, he repeated what I’d heard before: “I don’t understand why people thought Season 2 was so different than Season 1. We actually didn’t have any kind of break in the writer’s room because of the timing, so we just kept writing episodes and were very surprised by the fan reactions to ‘Season 2′ which, for us, was just the same thing continued.”

Having said that, I do think that Bryan Fuller (who is extremely unlikely to return to the show due to personal differences) wrote some of the most character/people oriented episodes, such as “Company Man” and some of the more successful moments of Season 4. If it gets to the point of a return, assuming the primaries aren’t in other projects (including score composers Wendy & Lisa, and Kring himself who has the pilot “Touch” under development), let’s hope that the writers listen to outside voices a bit more, and not just Sylar’s Army who gave them a distorted image of what the majority of viewers wanted. Considering who Kring is now talking/listening to, it’s not far-fetched that they might, resulting in a better show.

An interesting article, let’s see if it goes anywhere.

“The old story got stupid with the heroes losing their powers or having them drastically altered. To me that ruined the characters and destroyed the show. The idea of people with super powers to to exploit weaknesses and instead they just changed, altered or took away their powers. That is when I began hating this show.”

Agree completely. This is something I tried to impress upon the writers, and hopefully if the show is resurrected in some capacity, they won’t do this again. The argument is given that Peter was too powerful, but that ignores his humanity and empathy, which would naturally keep his powers in check if done well. The whole “synthetic powers” thing was also a huge mistake that I compare to the “miticlorians” thing in Star Wars — talk about ruining the mystique. They also said that Mohinder and Ando would never get powers, and they jumped that shark too. Again… let’s pray that if something ever comes of any of this, that they’ll listen to the fans more carefully. And that they’ll bring Nathan back, which was also a huge mistake judging from the fan responses I’ve seen from around the world (it is possible to do within canon in at least two different ways).

I think it’s just best to let Heroes go, I mean it had a good run and it’s sad that NBC refused to let it continue on through another season at least to wrap it up. I honestly don’t see them bringing it back in any form, on another network maybe (in another form, with new cast members), but not NBC. As for saving NBC itself I think that ship hit a ratings iceberg long ago and sank.

I really only watched the show for Sylar to be honest. And Hiro.

I didn’t mention this in my original post, but I think the main problem with Heroes was really the writer’s strike. I liked where season 2 was going, and the original planned ending sounded way better than what actually happened. It was all the backtracking in season 3 that really killed it for me, and I never even saw any of season 4. Again, not that I think Heroes needs to come back, but if something similar were to come along I think it might fare better without the 18 or so months off the air that Heroes suffered from.

This is your brain : “Heroes really sucked after the first season.”

This is your brain on drugs: ‘They should bring Heroes back.”

The first season wasn’t that good. Better shows have died a more premature death. Heroes fans should be grateful for the 77 or so episodes they were given. (Compare it to Veronica Mars’ 64, Pushing Daisies’ 22, Firefly’s 15, Drive’s 6…)

Remaking heroes would be the same as them finally admitting that they have no freakin’ clue.

The simple fact that so many have commented is proof to me that interest in “Heroes” continues to endure. I think everyone wants to see what happens once Specials are “out”.

My idea: uses HRG (working for gov’t) as a framing device so we could do any of a number of things. From original new stories & characters to working in existing characters to appear organically.

Here’s a Heroes fan comic in meantime…http://boards.9thwonders.com/index.php?showtopic=71604&st=0&gopid=907778&#entry907778

They should revive Bionic Woman and Journeyman while they’re at it. And buy the rights for Sarah Conner Chronicles and Dollhouse from Fox. Then they can program an entire night of shows audiences have already soundly rejected.

There’s a business plan.

To me the interesting part of Heroes always was seeing how otherwise normal people, from Japanese nerds to Las Vegas strippers, reacted to gaining superpowers. Had it remained as character-focused as the in the first season, I would’ve watched it beyond the second season. The only overaching plot it really needed was the origin of the powers, and they took way too long to get to that (probably trying to imitate “Lost”.)

Also, for a show called “Heroes” it sure had very few truly heroic characters. The most popular one was a freakin’ Brain-stealing serial killer! Maybe they should have titled it “Superhumans” instead.

I thought what HEROES can do to make it A FAMous Show Again
This :

When they left off when claier showed what she can do to the world: [IN live Tv]
Then the Gavorment came to take them away, they cant RUN they. they cant HIDE
As the Goverment comes to the carinval [Where Everbody is Still] To take them away Noah
tells Hiro Talaport all of them somewhere safe. As noah tells him, The people of the city circle the carinaval.[ Thousands Of Perople ] As they all hold hands to talaport. the goverment shots Hiro in The body as he waS tellporting Them out. His head gets mixed up where to talaport. then a big flash showed throw the sky. they were gone.
The place they Went to was to new City york [ but in the past ] Then the last secne of that epoisde shows, Isac Mandez painting, Then he stops painting. Then he Paints a pic of the UNIVERISE { Boom } ….

because a world with Twice More of the badest VILLIANS
The World HAS to be SAVED one More TIME

But wITH A WORLD WITH

twice more pantings
Twice more heroes
Twice More of the badest VILLIANS

Anything can happen ….

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Or he could have said: “We didn’t really have much of a clue where we were going with season one, and we just did the exact same thing with season two.” It had its chance, failed – move on.

The show was over for me when they introduced the third nikki triplet

nope. don’t bring it back. too soon. NBC needs good better dramas and comedies. if Law and Order was where CSI is now, the cycle happens and ends. move on. if the Amazon Princess can’t do it, then no one can and let cable channels do the developing of such shows like Heroes.