DC’s JLA Movie Plans: Do They Really Need A New Superman And Batman?

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DC’s JLA Movie Plans: Do They Really <i>Need</i> A New Superman And Batman?  

So, DC Entertainment apparently is planning a Justice League movie – and it’ll apparently feature versions of both Batman and Superman than are appearing in their own movies. Clearly, DC and Warner Bros are looking forward to seeing how quickly they can screw up their superhero franchises.

There are countless reasons why the idea of recasting not just Batman but Superman in any Justice League movie – never mind one that may be coming out just a year after the in-pre-production Superman reboot that Zack Snyder is currently working on – is a bad one, not least of which is that it’s going to be confusing to audiences (“Wasn’t some other guy Superman last year?”). But more than that, it’s entirely unnecessary. Yes, I get that both Christian Bale and Henry Cavill may be too expensive by that point for what are likely to be, essentially, cameos in a movie dominated by other characters and actors, and so from that point, recasting makes a lot of sense. But… why do Superman and Batman even need to appear in the movie?

Follow my logic: For the majority of the Justice League’s early years, both Superman and Batman were small presences in the story, probably following on from the similar role they played in the Justice Society stories of the 1940s and ’50s. Although they are featured in the origin of the team, they’re barely there, getting what amounts to a “And all of this happened off-panel” treatment compared with the full adventures of Aquaman, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman, Flash and Martian Manhunter in the same story. Although they are occasionally treated as the core of the team – Hi, Brad Meltzer! – there’s actually little reason beyond name recognition that either character actually has to be in the movie.

Ah, you say, but isn’t name recognition enough? Well… yes and no. Presumably, Ryan Reynolds’ Green Lantern will be appearing in this movie, and he could really be enough of an anchor for most fans to want to see the movie (To put it in some perspective; Thor and Captain America: The First Avengers aren’t out yet, but non-comic fans are still excited about The Avengers based solely on the example of the Iron Man movies). Batman, as movie audiences have gotten used to him, wouldn’t even fit into the fantastic world of the Justice League, and Superman’s power set could cause more problems than solutions when it comes to setting up a credible threat for the League to bring to Justice, so it arguably makes more sense not to include them.

(Using Wonder Woman, should her TV show be a hit, may cause similar problems. Do you bring Adrienne Palicki into the movie, and officially out that show into the movie continuity? And if so, what does that do to close down the scale of the show’s plans?)

That said, name recognition isn’t something to be sneezed at, and I’m sure the chance for DC and WB to play up the Superman and Batman brands – even as they undermine them with confusion over who plays those characters at any given time – will be too much to refuse. But, still. I can’t help but feel that letting Superman and Batman join the Justice League will lead to the kind of disaster that the studio would need a superhero to save them from.

  • T.

    Nolan made a great Batman film? Why didn’t he release it? Because the Nolan Batman films I saw were pretentious hot garbage. Maybe if he WAS forced to fit them in a template of a grander universe they’d have been better.

    http://therawness.com/why-i-hated-the-dark-knight/

  • T.

    What I don’t get is, why waste the opportunity to have a true big 7 JLA? All the possible cons of having Batman and Superman in it are far outweighed by all the possible pros.

  • T.

    I think the real reason they’re rebooting after Nolan is not because his vision can’t be topped. His vision was topped by every other Batman movie and TV show except for the Schumacher ones. It’s because his vision is too limiting and boring. Once the novelty of an ultrarealistic Batman that is super down to earth to the point of having boring sluggish fight scenes wears off, that’s pretty much it. It’ll be out of gas by the 3rd installment, especially without the Heath Ledger stunt casting for it to coast on.

  • JMC

    No, no – the real reason is what I’ve written above. Your explanation is just bitter ranting that neglects to factor in that your opinion represents 0.0000000001 percent of the population. The rest of us enjoy Nolan’s vision, backed both financially and critically, and are eagerly anticipating a third instalment.

    You just keep hanging on to that delusional blanket to keep you warm at night.

  • JMC

    The Sky is Falling! The Sky is Falling!! Thanks for your input Chicken Little

  • http://atocom.blogspot.com Atomic Kommie Comics

    The “James Bond” model doesn’t always work.
    Ask George Lazenby, and Timothy Dalton.
    Plus, it wasn’t a “shared” universe linking to other characters. Now, if there was a “60s Spy” universe with Bond, Flint, Matt Helm, Modesty Blaise, etc all interacting…
    As it is, it’s sort of a shame that Spider-Man and the FF won’t even be referenced because they’re not at Paramount…

  • Thejim

    DC should follow Marvel’s plan, and make a DC movie universe… Having different actor playing the same character in a JLA movie, and said character’s own movie I think would eventually get confusing to the audience…

  • Shift

    Umm… Justice League International was successful because of Batman. Remember “ONE PUNCH! ONE PUNCH!”

  • http://twitter.com/ebruhwiler Erik Bruhwiler

    But it does work, in the sense that the franchise is alive and well, and whether one movie doesn’t do well or not, the franchise persists. Just like comics.

  • http://atocom.blogspot.com Atomic Kommie Comics

    A comic doesn’t go more than half a decade between issues.
    License to Kill (1989)–GoldenEye (1995)
    (The franchise was almost “killed” due to internal politics.)
    Hell, people get antsy when a monthly misses an issue.
    And since, as I pointed out, there’s no “shared universe” for the movie character(s) to go between films for “guest appearances” as comic characters do, it’s a different beast entirely.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QKN5MHOI6VUFOYCTV5REK7M7A4 Jacob

    Two words: The Twelve.

    ZING

  • http://atocom.blogspot.com Atomic Kommie Comics

    Five words: #9 ain’t out yet.

    ZING!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QKN5MHOI6VUFOYCTV5REK7M7A4 Jacob

    Exactly.

    BAZING!

    (and with JMS being exclusive with DC now, it’s unlikely it ever will)

  • TOMMY

    TRUE BATMAN AND SUPERMAN ARE HOUSEHOLD NAMES. BUT ANYONE WITH COMIC BOOK KNOWLEDGE KNOW WHO THE FLASH WONDERWOMAN GREENARROW BLACK CANARY AND THE MARTIAN MANHUNTER ARE. THESE CHARACTERS ARE FORM AN ERA WHERE COMIC WERE KING

  • Therealbourne

    I don’t really care what they do or what they don’t. Ive never really read that many JLA comics. I’m a fan of Nolan’s Batman Begins/The Dark Knight but other than that I prefer the marvel comics/movies. Spider Man, Iron Man, The Hulk, Captain America, and Thor all just really good stand alone or tied together franchises. It just works. You can watch each of the marvel films and easily picture all of them together in the same film. But the Dc movies? It’s not looking so good.

  • Sasonk12

    I have a question was another of Batman and Superman film together painted as animated as the first film was president otter Chloe Piene SUPERM Ubtatman were public enemies