Doctor Who Season 6: 5 Questions About ‘The Doctor’s Wife’

Short of an episode being written by Alan Moore (or, perhaps, Stephen King), this week’s Doctor Who — written by none other than Neil Gaiman — may be the only time where the writer of the episode outshines the eponymous hero. But that doesn’t mean we don’t have some questions about it. Five of them, in fact …

What Is The TARDIS?
So, now we know for sure that the TARDIS is alive — and, when inserted into a human body, surprisingly similar to Delirium from Gaiman’s Sandman comics — but, beyond that… What is the TARDIS? Something with a soul and a mind of its own, we can say for sure, but also something that claims to exist at all points of space and time simultaneously, according to this episode. Which makes sense, because how else can it travel around time and space safely? But that also means it knows how all of the stories end, because it’s there at the same time as the stories are beginning. We’ve learned that the TARDIS “borrowed” the Doctor, back when he thought he was stealing the TARDIS, and we also know that she love him … so why would she take him to somewhere where he’d die, back in “The Impossible Astronaut”? Unless, of course, she knows that he doesn’t stay dead …

(Also worth remembering: The Doctor we watched die didn’t have a TARDIS that we saw. Is that a sign, somehow? And if so, what does it mean?)

And, while we’re thinking about the opening story from this season …

Is The Little Girl From “Day Of The Moon” A TARDIS?
The energy we saw her release from her hands … The TARDIS did the same thing, this week. What if she is Amy’s daughter, but the TARDIS is somehow the father? Instead of being a new Time Lord, the little girl is somehow part-TARDIS … Is that as ridiculous as it sounds?

Are There Other Time Lords Alive After All?
The Doctor seemed surprisingly willing to believe that some Time Lords may have survived the destruction of the race by being outside the universe … Just because he didn’t find any in the Cosmic Junkyard, that doesn’t necessarily mean he wasn’t right. If, as we know, a TARDIS can leave the universe, how likely would it be that at least one other Time Lord thought to escape genocide by that method?

Is This The Death Season? Or Just The Opposite?
Four episodes into this season, and we’ve seen both the Doctor and the TARDIS “die,” as well as the imaginary corpse of Rory. And, despite that, we’ve been given multiple hints of the Doctor not being the last Time Lord after all, and also had each death followed by the re-appearance of the person we’ve just seen die. If there’s a theme so far from what we’ve seen, it just might be that death isn’t necessarily the end that we tend to think it is — fitting for a show where regeneration is always a possibility. This week, we had the Doctor admit that he’s looking for redemption for his role in the death of his people … What if he finds it by bringing the race back from extinction?

The TARDIS Told Rory “The Only Water In The Forest Is A River.” So What Does That Mean?
I’ll admit, I was disappointed that an episode called “The Doctor’s Wife” wasn’t about the one character we all suspect is the Doctor’s wife … But then we had this line thrown in at the end to tease us. It’s clearly a reference to Dr. River Song, but should we put take it to mean that there’s a forest in the future that River should enter, but Amy (who is, of course, a Pond, another body of water) shouldn’t? I’m convinced it’s an Amy/River clue of some sorts; I just don’t know what kind. Yet.

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  • http://twitter.com/HeroicTStudios Michael Sacal

    “Forest of the Dead”…. nuff said. 

  • http://twitter.com/velsignet Katie

    I was happy the episode was called “The Doctor’s Wife” because, regardless of my like or dislike of River Song, it’s always rubbed me the wrong way to think the Doctor would ever have a wife… it’s against his character.  The only true companion of the Doctor IS the Tardis.  It was fitting.  :)

  • Shawn

    Also, the Cyborg tree forest in the ship that crashed on the Byzantium.

  • Shawn

    But what if that line is a red herring and isn’t really referring to River at all?

    So does this mean we’ll start seeing the TARDIS’s doors pulled back now?

  • http://profiles.google.com/charles.nocturnus Charles Smith

     Great questions. If you are going to have someone other than Steven Moffat scribing an episode, Neil Gaiman works for me. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=571562029 Charles Pechonick

    If Timelords outside the Universe survived, that would Romana was out there somewhere.

    Romana left the Doctor in an episode that involved passing into another universe through reflective surfaces like in Curse of the Black Spot and the prison built for the Doctor in  Day of the Moon was from a material introduced in the very same episode…

    Red Herring or are they hinting that Romana is coming back???

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6P6O32FQEFNXCBJHA4FO5A5ADM Steve

    ‘…so why would she take him to somewhere where he’d die, back in “The Impossible Astronaut”?’
     
    Maybe because Sexy Thing is usually experiencing viewing time from within the Time Vortex and seeing the results of every action and every possibility all at once.  I’d say that it took a flesh and blood brain to ground her experience so that she saw cause and effect and most probable outcomes based on the decisions made.  When she dropped the Doctor off to be killed by the astronaut, I’m betting she saw him shot and killed, shot and not killed, shot at and missed, etc, just as she probably sees all those possibilities every time she brings him somewhere…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D7VQQXO6APXQZUYUTBXFNXMWSY Jase

     That’s definitely what I was thinking, that it might have been a reference to the Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead two-parter, possibly hinting that the events of that story that introduced River Song might be revisited.

  • Anonymous

    “Are There Other Time Lords Alive After All? ”

    Nobody remembers Jenny, the Doctor’s daughter? Although the Doctor does not know that she is alive, she is very much a living time lord.

    “The Only Water In The Forest Is A River.”

    I willing to bet that this is exactly the opposite of what it is implying, if only because the writers have been known to fool the fans with things like this. The writers probably knew that everyone would think of River Song and the library, just like how people thought of the Gates of Elysium when they heard the word “gate” in the trailers for “End of Time”.

  • http://twitter.com/HeroicTStudios Michael Sacal

    River = Romana? 

  • http://www.actsoftheapostasy.blogspot.com LarryD

    Not likely – in one of the Dr Who novels written after Dr #7 and before 2005, Romana was President of the High Council of Gallifrey.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=571562029 Charles Pechonick

     Are the novels considered Cannon?

  • YanYanCanCan

     Which could also explain the Silence chasing the Doctor across time and space — since the Doctor and Donna left River’s diary behind in the library.

  • Drayke

    But the Doctor has already had at least one wife (with whom he had children and at least one granddaughter) and it was implied that he loved Rose enough that he would leave a cloned version of himself with her to presumably live out their lives together. And the idea of a wife is *totally* in his character. The reason he drops companions after a while is because he’s afraid of getting that close because he knows they will die while he goes on. Everything about the Doctor is based around love and caring.

  • DoubleWide

    It was mentioned in my local paper that David Tennant and Patrick Stewart got along so well during the production of “Hamlet” that Patrick was signed up to play The Meddling Monk, which didn’t happen before David left. Perhaps another Time Lord survivor?

  • Nataniel

     Nope.

  • http://profiles.google.com/draykonis Drayke Larson

    “Is The Little Girl From “Day Of The Moon” A TARDIS?”

    While she might be, it’s far more likely that she is somehow related to a Time Lord. The energy we saw emanating from her also looks exactly like regeneration residue. Nothing can be discounted however, as it has been established that TARDISes are grown, not made, and we have no idea how they reproduce.

  • Anakinflair

     Here’s an alternative for question 5- In ‘Forest of the Dead’, the Doctor uploaded River’s neural imprint into the Library’s computer. Hence, ‘The only water in [b]The Forest[/b] is a [b]River[/b].

  • http://twitter.com/lalomartins Lalo Martins

     on the “revisit the two-parter” train:

    River was uploaded into the computer. Then forgotten about. Why? Isn’t there a pretty good chance older-River will still pop up and do something?

  • Anonymous

    Here’s an interesting side question:  Is it the same energy?

    I seem to remember seeing someplace that just because one was from Galifrey, didn’t automatically make them a “Time Lord”.  We’ve seen the TARDIS at least partially involved in many of the Doctor’s regenerations, and we know that it has a connection to the Doctor and his companions even when they aren’t inside because of the translation “gift”…what if it’s a TARDIS’s relationship with its Time Lord that makes them able to regenerate in the first place?

    Also: Are we SURE we didn’t see the older Doctor’s TARDIS in “Day of the Moon”? He’s from 200 years in the future, what if in that time he decided to fix the camouflage circuit? Remember that car he was sitting on when Amy and Rory found him? They were in the middle of nowhere! Where did it go? For that matter, where did it come from? Is it possible that it was the TARDIS, hidden, even from us, in plain sight?

  • Anonymous

    1 the TARDIS could just be playing along with the docto’s plan because he knew he was going to die and he had a plan otherwise he would have invited everyone.
    2. if the little girl is both amy and rory’s daughter as well as being another tardis, then that would be hard to swallow but the little girl could have been born by looking into the hear of the tardis like rose did. 
    3+4. maybe him dying was a part of a scheme to bring the time lords back.
    5.maybe the doctor will meet the computer data river in the library.

  • Shawn

    Remember how River told Rory that she thinks that when she sees the Doctor for the last time, it might kill her and we all thought it had already happened and seen it? Maybe like some of the guys here have already mentioned, her appearance in the library wasn’t the last time she met the doctor. Maybe the doctor can bring her back from there. Of course for that to happen she needs a body to get into and it was destroyed in that episode right? And if she had a future her future self would appear right? Maybe it will. Maybe the future self will tell the doctor how to save her neural relay. That’s how everything happens right? The reason the doctor takes river to the places she said and gives her the screwdriver before she goes to the library is because he remembers River telling him all that in the library. Timey wimey wibbly wobbly right?

  • James Chang

    “Is The Little Girl From “Day Of The Moon” A TARDIS?

    The energy we saw her release from her hands … The TARDIS did the same thing, this week. What if she is
    Amy’s daughter, but the TARDIS is somehow the father? Instead of being a
    new Time Lord, the little girl is somehow part-TARDIS … Is that as
    ridiculous as it sounds?”

    Isn’t that just a regeneration?

  • Shawn

    But there’s one thing no one has mentioned here ever since the season started. I don’t know if u all didn’t know about it or if it’s because u thought no one could figure it out so there’s no point sharing. But what about the secret messages that are left for us on the DW website?
    In the episode page of each episode under the Fourth Dimension tab, every italicizes word forms together to make a message. So far it has gone like this:

    The Impossible Astronaut: “All The secrets you seek can be found here on the Webb”
    Day of the Moon: “We found your message. Your alive! But what secrets d’you mean my friend?”
    The Curse of the Black Spot: “I mean i glimpsed him! and May the gods help him or perhaps you can”
    The Doctor’s Wife: “to see what I saw click on the spot beyond the Doctor’s home planet”

    The clue for this episode means that u have to click on the full stop after the word Gallifrey, which is the last word in the Fourth Dimension tab.

    It leads to a strange video that makes no sense but I feel like the silence is coming back. I can’t wait for all the messages to make sense in the end.

  • AlistairCrane

     Actually, yes they are.

  • http://twitter.com/aexia Micheal Keane

    Russell T Davies has referred, in misc written material, to Romana as being President and attempting to broker a peace before war broke out.

    The BBC will never say the 7th and 8th Doctor books are definitely canon but the people writing and producing the show came up when those books were the only new material available and in several cases, they wrote for the book line before themselves.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QKN5MHOI6VUFOYCTV5REK7M7A4 Jacob

    I do think it was a regeneration, but only because she said she was healing herself. The physical appearance of the Time Vortex energy stuff looks exactly the same as the regeneration energy. We’ve seen it twice now. Once at the end of Nine, and again here. Even if they aren’t the same thing, they’re related enough that it could go either way with the little girl.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QKN5MHOI6VUFOYCTV5REK7M7A4 Jacob

     #1 Is what I was thinking. The TARDIS always brought him to where he needed to be, and he needed to be there. And I don’t see the Doctor traveling without the TARDIS. I think he would stop traveling before getting a new ride.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QKN5MHOI6VUFOYCTV5REK7M7A4 Jacob

     Just a tip, Disqus uses HTML, not BBCode. So use instead of [ and ]. The interiors are the same (i for italics, b for bold, u for underlined and so on)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QKN5MHOI6VUFOYCTV5REK7M7A4 Jacob

    Doctor Who has an ARG!?

  • Jayz

     This show has gone up its own ass by the sound of it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QKN5MHOI6VUFOYCTV5REK7M7A4 Jacob

    They are considered canon, but there’s nothing stopping them from writing a retcon. Just say Romana left this universe before the Doctor sealed the Time-Lords away.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QKN5MHOI6VUFOYCTV5REK7M7A4 Jacob

    I wouldn’t like that. I want River to be a standalone character. I’m fine with her being tied to Amy, because it would still mean River is just River (unless they make River = Old Amy).

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QKN5MHOI6VUFOYCTV5REK7M7A4 Jacob

    The two energies look exactly the same, hence the confusion.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QKN5MHOI6VUFOYCTV5REK7M7A4 Jacob

    The idea of the Doctor fixing the chamerleon circuit is disheartening because he loves his big, blue box being big and blue.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QKN5MHOI6VUFOYCTV5REK7M7A4 Jacob

    And boxy.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QKN5MHOI6VUFOYCTV5REK7M7A4 Jacob

    Oh, definitely. And what a glorious ass it is.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QKN5MHOI6VUFOYCTV5REK7M7A4 Jacob

     I don’t think of the TARDIS as being a companion. She’s his partner. The companions come and go, but he’s partnered with the TARDIS for life.

  • Shawn

    Great. Be sarcastic.

    I just wanted to know why no one talked abt it at all since everyone seems to grab at every piece of info they can get to speculate.

    I know this isn’t the first time they’re doing it but I hadn’t heard about this for season 6 anywhere at all.

  • Anonymous

    I read that as surprise, not sarcasm…but I may have read it that way because I was surprised also.

    It’s good to know.  I’ll be checking it out.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QKN5MHOI6VUFOYCTV5REK7M7A4 Jacob

    I wasn’t being sarcastic, I really didn’t know.

  • demoncat_4

    the Tardis being alive and in love with the doctor is interesting  like moya from farscape. though had the belief that the doctor s wife ment river  song.  plus always figured the tardis had to have its power source  come some how from the time lords but never thought the tardis could be one.

  • Shawn

    Oh ok. Sorry. :) for some reason i read that as sarcasm. Hard to get ur feelings thru text. Maybe because you always comment and seem to know all these things well I thought it was sarcasm.

    Did u check it out? It has to lead into something from the main story arch right?

  • SageShinigami

     The textbook definition of “Haters Gonna Hate”.

  • http://twitter.com/HeroicTStudios Michael Sacal

    The Lodger, Blink, and Human Blood were all adaptations of stories that previously appeared as comics and novels.

    Doesn’t that mean that whatever happens in comics and novels is not considered canon and that is why it neeeds to be remade for TV, so that it can become a part of continuity?

    If that’s the case, whatever the books say about Romana has no bearing on the TV show.

  • http://twitter.com/ToniGoodman Toni Goodman

    Here’s my idea:

    Amy’s timey-wimey unborn child is the little girl. The little girl is River. River is Amy. The man River killed is The Doctor. The Doctor is River.

    Rory feels confused and left out.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QKN5MHOI6VUFOYCTV5REK7M7A4 Jacob

    Eh, I’m a sarcastic little shit, I get the confusion. We actually covered the emotionless aspect of communicating through text in one of my classes at my college. It’s a real bitch to try and be aware of, though.

    I did check it out. Very intriguing. I think you’re on the right track thinking it’s about the Silence. It seems like he’s under heavy attack and is sending an urgent SOS. Something I noticed is that he’s not in the TARDIS (are we supposed to be calling it Sexy now?) and that he’s not with any companions. We know neither of the people conversing in the messages is The Doctor, because they’re talking about him. I wonder if they have any actual plot bearing, or if it was just an elaborate map to get clever users to the video…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D7VQQXO6APXQZUYUTBXFNXMWSY Jase

     They didn’t look exactly the same to me. Regeneration energy in the new series completely envelopes the exposed parts of a Time Lord’s body – mainly the head and hands – before exploding violently outwards. Sexy’s energy only spiraled out of the mouth. I don’t think there should be any confusion between the two. The little girl at the end of Dayof the Moon is clearly regenerating.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D7VQQXO6APXQZUYUTBXFNXMWSY Jase

     So basically Moff’s whole Doctor Who run is a bizarre adaption of All You Zombies?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QKN5MHOI6VUFOYCTV5REK7M7A4 Jacob

    That’s a good point. It’s certainly proof positive that they at least get to pick and choose what is and isn’t canon, similar to how Star Wars treats the EU material. What I’ve noticed so far is that the stories are usually adapted by the same writer, yeah?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QKN5MHOI6VUFOYCTV5REK7M7A4 Jacob

    Hmmm, that is true. That certainly does indicate she was regenerating. But to me, they did look incredibly similar. They just behaved differently. Sexy’s had intent and purpose, where as a Time-Lord’s is just exploding. But no, not exactly the same. You are correct on that.

  • Boggs

     The silence were trying to build a tardis.  Perhaps the little girl…

  • Wildstorm

     Yes Amy’s is

  • Shawn

    Yeah I think the writer who wrote the Human Nature novel was the one who adapted it into an episode of Season 3. And same for Blink too with Steven Moffat I think.

  • Shawn

    The video was called Analysis Lessons, and I read somewhere it was an anagram of Lonely Assassins, don’t know if that’s important or another red herring.
    But I get the feeling from the video that he’s doing this because he’s going to forget everything because of the Silence. For all we know, the Silence are already back and they just keep forgetting because they think they got rid of them. This video reminds me of another video they put up to tease the coming of the silence, and that doesn’t make sense either: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdYdY9o1sfk

    Maybe the messages go backward, like for example, in Day of the Moon, it says, “We found your message, your alive….” which might be something that happens after someone found his distress signal video. Like River’s travels with the Doctor, everything might be backward.

    It’s all so exciting, I hope the mystery pays off.

  • Shawn

    Actually, if you didn’t watch those, it wasn’t just that video, there was another video similar to the one I posted that came with it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io6dds79iyI&feature=related

    And then these 2 videos also accompanied them where the Silence are actually shown: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdClwdQvKXo&feature=related

    And

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFEk8Nx-1Tc&feature=related

    These videos remind me of the one with the Doctor because they both seem static and stuff, but maybe they are unrelated.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QKN5MHOI6VUFOYCTV5REK7M7A4 Jacob

    Paul Cornell wrote “Human Nature”/”The Family of Blood” based on his novel Human Nature, which featured the Seventh Doctor. Kinda fun how RTD ran with the concept of a Time-Lord turning human for the series finale that year. (“Blink” was based on “‘What I Did on My Christmas Holidays’ By Sally Sparrow”, which was written by Moffat for Doctor Who Annual in 2006.)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QKN5MHOI6VUFOYCTV5REK7M7A4 Jacob

    I don’t think they’re backwards. I think it’s a full on conversation about the Doctor’s distress call.
    Guy 1: “All The secrets you seek can be found here on the Webb”
    Guy 2: “We found your message. Your alive! But what secrets d’you mean my friend?”
    Guy 1: “I mean i glimpsed him! and May the gods help him or perhaps you can. To see what I saw click on the spot beyond the Doctor’s home planet”

    Those videos are weird… They definitely tie back into the whole “You don’t remember seeing them the first time.” Which only became clear after we met them. I don’t think we’re going to get this one before they tell us what it means. But, if I had to guess, I’d say we’ll find out either before, or during, episode seven. Which is when they cruelly give us the first half of a two-parter (with the second part coming in the Fall) that will have a “game-changing cliffhanger” titled “A Good Man Goes to War.” Pft, frikkin Moffat, why do you have to be so good?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QKN5MHOI6VUFOYCTV5REK7M7A4 Jacob

    Anyone else realize they threw out the whole “The Doctor stole the TARDIS”? By making it Sexy’s decision to leave, she wasn’t stolen. They left together. to go on the greatest adventure of all time.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QKN5MHOI6VUFOYCTV5REK7M7A4 Jacob

     Rory’s always confused and left out. Hell, he got left out of the Universe, last time around.

  • Ruckergsc

     just to add…did we remember the book from the beginning of the season? The Doctor is leaving messages in the boos for Amy to find. She was trying to figure out why. I am sure this will tie into the woman with the eyepatch who keeps sliding open the window. As for the season of Doctor Who I love it more and more. Though I have to admit I miss Eccleston.. of the season? The Doctor is leaving messages in the boos for Amy to find. She was trying to figure out why. I am sure this will tie into the woman with the eyepatch who keeps sliding open the window. As for the season of Doctor Who I love it more and more. Though I have to admit I miss Eccleston..

  • Shawn

    It’s what makes him the Doctor-knowing he’s a mad man willing to explore the universe and stole a box to do that, but lots of people seem to think that the revelation that the TARDIS stole him undoes all that. But it doesn’t, because in the Doctor’s mind he stole, or ‘borrowed’, it, even if all this time it may have been the other way around, or a mutual thing, he didn’t know that until now, he didn’t know they were leaving together. So it doesn’t really change the Doctor’s character or what Doctor Who is about. Right?

  • Shawn

    Good point, so maybe they aren’t backwards. It’s funny how when they say the secrets can be found on the web, it’s for us, and it’s part of the dialogue in the story at the same time. They’re good. 

    I don’t think the last part about ‘click on the spot beyond his home planet’ is part of the dialogue. Guy 1 probably just shows the video to guy 2, where he glimpsed the Doctor. 

    No I don’t think we’ll get any answers before episode 7…and considering how cruel they seem to be so far, I don’t think we’ll get any big answers during ep. 7 either, probably only after. But either way, I can’t wait for episode 7.  Maybe that’s when we’ll see River kill ‘the good man’ whoever he is, since it’s titled that way, and that could be the cliffhanger.

    We have no lives, do we? Speculating and speculating each week until the next episode, and then finding out all our theories were wrong. :)

  • Jhkep2

    The Timelord who the Doctor was excited to see was named “The Corsair” and they made a point of saying that he had regenerated as a woman in the past. So, corsair = pirate = eye patch. Maybe the mystery woman with an eyepatch is the Corsair in a fully functional Tardis. Or maybe the corsair peeking in from outside of the universe trying to ssave the Doctor.

    As a side note I would love the little girl to be Jenny, but when Jenny “regenerated” she didn’t change physically. Although David Tennant pulled that one off so it isn’t unfeasible.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QKN5MHOI6VUFOYCTV5REK7M7A4 Jacob

    Did “we” remember? No, no we did not. You sure did. I thought that was just the Doctor having fun. I think the opening to this season is going to need to be reexamined several times…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QKN5MHOI6VUFOYCTV5REK7M7A4 Jacob

    I do think the mention of the spot is part of the conversation, just that “Guy 2″ is one of us. It fills the voice of the user. It even fits with your own train of thought. Guy 1 shows it to us, Guy 2, where we glimpsed the Doctor. ARG’s are supposed to be interactive (though Valve took it a little far with Portal 2 XD), so it’s certainly possible.

    I don’t think Moffat would leave us for so long without any answers to these burning questions. I think we’ll find out who the girl is, who the eyepatch lady is (MOLOTOV! I can’t stop thinking that…), and probably another revelation with the Silence (but not in which ever episode reveals who River is, because she’s not experienced with the Silence, so I don’t think they’d met before the season premiere, or after… you know what I mean).

     I think that’s the fun of fandom, though. Enjoying the franchise even when it’s absent. And then, despite sinking untold amounts of time into it, it still manages to kick us off our feet.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QKN5MHOI6VUFOYCTV5REK7M7A4 Jacob

     Ten did have to have his hand cut off to do it though…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QKN5MHOI6VUFOYCTV5REK7M7A4 Jacob

     Oh, of course it doesn’t change anything, but moving forward, knowing it’s mutual, we can’t think of the TARDIS as stolen. He still will, because he’s got the most hyperactive conscious ever.

  • Ktaylor_2

    Well since River and the Doctor keep meeting traveling backwards . Perhaps River is the Tardis, again in human body from some point in the future. As the Tardis is most certainly the Doctors wife. Just an idea

  • Ktaylor_2

    River being the Tardis would certainly explain how she can fly the Tardis so much better than the Doctor.

  • mars

    Douglas Adams does that in hindsight doesn’t he? 

  • Sammy

    Everyone says River is Romana but no one seems to say that the Eye Patch Lady is Romana looking in from outside the universe. 

  • Shawn

    Oh yes, our perspective changes

  • blueboxfan

    River Song is the little girl, she is the daughter of Amy & the TARDIS, but rather than regenerate and change, she simply regenerates within the same body (much like the Doctor’s Daughter). The TARDIS does this in the hope that it will give the Doctor a companion / lover / friend who is also an equal for the rest of his life. Being part TARDIS – River is automatically attracted to the Doctor & vice-versa & also being part Amy contniues this theme and also gives River the aspect of humanity that the Doctor always finds fascinating, the only difference is that River appears to have a ‘dark side’ as well which implies that there is a part of the Tardis that has not yet been revealed & also even the Doctor / other Timelords also have a ‘dark side’ in them, so if a being was part Timelord then there would be a part of the ‘dark side’ in them as well! This is just a theory and add fuel to the fire as to where this season is taking us & making us want to watch each episode hoping for a vital clue which will reveal everything! :)

  • Shawn

    I hadn’t thought about River not meeting the Silence before, but also, maybe she did and just forgot by the time the series opener rolled in :) But the last season showed us time could be rewritten so I don’t know. But with all our theories we seem so clever coming up with this stuff. So Moffat has to be a friggin’ genius for being able to kick us off our feet even after we come up with the wildest theories.

    But I don’t know why people keep speculating River is Amy’s daughter and stuff like that. I mean, as much as a big twist it would be, does that sound like Doctor Who? Does it really seem like it would happen on this show? I highly doubt it-but not completely, part of me thinks that it could happen, only because we can’t seem to speculate any other sort of scenario with the info that we are given. That’s the fun of it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QKN5MHOI6VUFOYCTV5REK7M7A4 Jacob

    If she had remembered them before, she’d have recalled the encounter as soon as she saw them in 1969. … I wonder if Moffat’s shoes have the word “Genius” on them so that he’s literally kicking us on our asses with his genius. (it’s what I’d do)

    I honestly think there’s no connection between River and Amy, and that we’ve latched onto it simply because it’s the only thing that seems halfway plausible (it really doesn’t sound like a Doctor Who plot). But the same logic there could apply to any companion (Like Rose or Sarah Jane).

  • Shawn

     Oh yes, that’s true, I wonder how Moffat keeps track of all these things when he writes for River. LOL. Although, what’s to say she hadn’t recalled them at the encounter in 1969? Just because they didn’t show it on the screen, doesn’t mean she didn’t remember at the time, because ultimately, she still forgets anyway, and they didn’t wanna spoil her first encounter with the Silence on screen…maybe. Maybe not.

    I doubt the Silence will return for episode 7 anyway as it seems to be about Cybermen, but the main story arc will be a huge factor I guess. And even then, I feel like the Silence, and and the little girl will only play a bigger role by the 2nd part of the season. Right now, it’s probably about River and the Eye-Patch Lady, and maybe Amy’s pregnancy.

    I don’t know if there’s a synopsis for episode 7 yet, but if you read the iTunes description of the 1st part of this season, it describes all the episodes till ep. 7. Towards the end it says, “And waiting for them, at the end of all this, is the battle of Demon’s Run, and the Doctor’s darkest hour. Can even the truth of River Song save the Doctor’s soul?” 
    So I’m guessing that’s what episode 7 is about. I haven’t watched the classic series so I don’t know if Demon’s Run is something new or old.

    Exactly, we can’t seem to come up with any other theories that make more sense than ‘River is Amy’s daughter’. And yet it fascinates me how Moffat thinks up all this stuff. 

  • Canton

     Do they still show the series 5 recap in the intro of every episode, or was it only for the first episode of this season (in America)?

  • http://twitter.com/jimmyjamawalk James Walker

    the girl isn’t a TARDIS. she wasn’t worried about her regeneration whereas with Idris (internal dimension relative in space?) if she didn’t get back into a TARDIS she was going to die–to burn up.

    the doctor burned up a universe to say goodbye to a girl (rose). in a nice little mirroring, the TARDIS burned up a girl to say hello.

    i would keep in mind, too, that the reason that episode had no real plot ties to the current season (no eyepatch lady, no river, nothing about the silence or the little girl) is because it was not meant to be a part of the current season.

    its a pretty good fairy tale filler story that would’ve worked better last series but is pretty good this series… just not the second coming of “blink” that everyone seems to think it is.

  • Mee Jung

    It has to do with ”Season 4″ back when Donna was his companion.  I think that’s the “forest”… 

  • Mee Jung

    It has to do with ”Season 4″ back when Donna was his companion.  I think that’s the “forest”… 

  • Mee Jung

    It has to do with ”Season 4″ back when Donna was his companion.  I think that’s the “forest”… 

  • Mee Jung

     Oh that is a funny connection about the Doctor buring up a sun to say goodbye to Rose.  And now the Tardis burned up a person to say hello. 

    The little girl is a TARDIS or a Time Lord…  She’s not human.  And you did notice how the Doctor kept doing a scan on Amy and the scan said “negative” then “positive”?  So in the change of realities she’s both?….  But yes I think all those things that everyone is talking about, they’ll be tied together nicely in later episodes…

    I like that he found a new hat style, though it didn’t last long. 

  • Mee Jung

     Oh that is a funny connection about the Doctor buring up a sun to say goodbye to Rose.  And now the Tardis burned up a person to say hello. 

    The little girl is a TARDIS or a Time Lord…  She’s not human.  And you did notice how the Doctor kept doing a scan on Amy and the scan said “negative” then “positive”?  So in the change of realities she’s both?….  But yes I think all those things that everyone is talking about, they’ll be tied together nicely in later episodes…

    I like that he found a new hat style, though it didn’t last long. 

  • Mee Jung

     Oh that is a funny connection about the Doctor buring up a sun to say goodbye to Rose.  And now the Tardis burned up a person to say hello. 

    The little girl is a TARDIS or a Time Lord…  She’s not human.  And you did notice how the Doctor kept doing a scan on Amy and the scan said “negative” then “positive”?  So in the change of realities she’s both?….  But yes I think all those things that everyone is talking about, they’ll be tied together nicely in later episodes…

    I like that he found a new hat style, though it didn’t last long. 

  • Elliott

    This silence that’s following the Doctor and the reference to the forest has em thinking of “Forest of the Dead”, the first episode where River makes an appearance to begin with. Just a thought. 

  • Elliott

    This silence that’s following the Doctor and the reference to the forest has em thinking of “Forest of the Dead”, the first episode where River makes an appearance to begin with. Just a thought. 

  • Elliott

    This silence that’s following the Doctor and the reference to the forest has em thinking of “Forest of the Dead”, the first episode where River makes an appearance to begin with. Just a thought. 

  • Elliott

    This silence that’s following the Doctor and the reference to the forest has em thinking of “Forest of the Dead”, the first episode where River makes an appearance to begin with. Just a thought. 

  • http://twitter.com/MonkeySmaker Daniel Saylors

    The Doctor has been known to be a bit naive when it comes to maters of the hearts. He found himself in a engagement / courtship with Cameca of the Aztecs in Season 1 Serial 6 where he and Cameca share in cocoa. He lets her down as gently as a young time lord can, which is to say as softly as a cover stone sinks into a large body of water.
     
     The 10th Doctor claims to have married and suggested to have had relations with ” Good Queen Bess” This does not appear to be the Doctor’s only marriage, as he remarked to Sally Sparrow in Blink about being “rubbish at weddings, especially my own.”

    Additionally, in his eleventh incarnation, the Doctor accidentally became engaged to
    Marilyn Monroe and then married her the same night in a small chapel that he later claimed was not a real chapel.

    It is implied heavily throughout the appearances of River Song that she and the Doctor are married somewhere in her past and his future.
     

  • mj

     What about Rose he married Rose and totally loved her.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D7VQQXO6APXQZUYUTBXFNXMWSY Jase

     Actually, nope, they’re not. Lots of events and plot elements are rendered invalid by the TV series. Human Nature for example was a novel, but once it was adapted to the screen, there’s no way those same events could have happened to the Seventh Doctor. It’s happened with other stories as well. Some of the novels tried to introduce the idea that Time Lords are born fully grown from a loom. Also rendered invalid by the series, when it references the Doctor had a childhood.

  • jtown

    not really a comment but a question. Has it ever been confirmed that river is indeed human because if she herself were a timelord then a lot of the puzzle pieces of this season would fall in to place and maybe the little girl we saw regenerate was a past or future version of her or even her and the doctors daughter. I know I’m probably way of the mark but something about this line of reasoning makes sense I just haven’t figured it out yet.

  • Andrew Chua

    In regards to the “Pull to open sign” I always thought that was in reference only to the police telephone inside the front of the door, not the door itself – afterall, the rest of the box was a temporary holding cell for perps the London Police needed to detain.