Star Wars Getting Re-Edited Again? Good!

The saddest part to any satire is how easily it’s lost on so many. 

You cared enough to make a none comment. Now either your laying out flame bait (chomp chomp chomp) or simply take pleasure in watching people argue because you, like us have fuck all else to do on a Monday night. 

This thread is a debate, it means something to the people on it, the flamers, the trolls and the geeks all vieing to make their points as valid as possible. So a geek site is not really the venue to stand up and say ‘I don’t care about this’ because it just kinda makes you look like the biggest cock at the orgy. 

If he was just re-editing to fix effects that looked primitive in the original movies- like removing the outlines from blue-screen footage- then nobody would complain. It’s because he uses the opportunity to make crass changes like Greedo shooting first, or Darth Vader bellowing ‘Noooooo’, that fans get outraged. Han Solo shooting Greedo under the table was not only a classic scene in it’s original form (and nodded to in Raiders of the Lost Ark when Jones shoots a mad swordsman), it introduces us to Han as a rogue and tells us that he can be dangerous. The re-edited scene not only diminishes Han, but it’s clumsy- despite state of the art effects, it looks shoddy and so obviously tacked on. Again, Vader choosing between his son and his master was powerful in it’s silence. Now, Lucas can ‘use new technology to realise my vision’ and dub on a ‘Nooooooo!’ which will no doubt turn it into a Simpsons-like howler of a scene.

if you don’t mind the changes then you simply aren’t a true fan, plain and simple. 

So true : (

All the original versions are available on DVD without the added scenes and CGI.  It’s commonsense not BS

“Biggest cock at the orgy”, eh? That’s rich coming from a guy who a) wears odd coloured glass on his face, and b) doesn’t get what I’m saying in the first place.Yes, I’m on a site adding to a debate because I believe something – that these are JUST films… films that I don’t understand why people who are probably old enough to know better are getting so heated about. Really, why? As this is the third time Lucas has released the films amended why is this such a surprise and point of anger for everyone? If anyone is the ”biggest cock at the orgy”, surely it is Lucas. He must be laughing his arse off over all the vitriol on sites like these because he sure as hell doesn’t take any notice of the fans. If he did he would have left well enough alone after the first misguided tweaking of the films, wouldn’t he? But he hasn’t ergo he doesn’t care so why should we? To him, these films are simply a pension fund; to me, they have become just films because their creator deserves no more from me.

So in answer to your accusations: no, I’m not some troll throwing flame bait (whatever the hell that means because it certainly isn’t in Chambers English Dictionary!), and yes, I do have more to do on a Monday night but because of iPhone technology I’m able to enjoy a night out with real people while adding to the debate.

For my money, these films stopped being Star Wars after the end credits of Return of the Jedi. Satisfied now?

You know, I read through the comments.  And anyone who has a problem with the way Lucas has made changes to the original releases, I understand where you’re coming from.  However, to me, the changes aren’t that big of a deal.  If you really want to discuss what’s worse, Darth Vader screaming “NOooooooo” in a near laughable fashion, or a well-trained army that loses to completely inferior forces on the moon of Endor, I’ll tell you I choose the latter.  I’ll even state a case why even Jar Jar himself isn’t as much of a mockery as how the “Bad Ass” Han Solo became a campy shell of himself in Return of the Jedi. 

Debate for the sake of fun, exchanging ideas and points of view, are all great, so long as they remain whey there should be.  When people take things so seriously as to insult others who don’t share the same point of view, or, worse yet, the man who created the films that you enjoyed so much when you saw them that you collected those movies, and other items, that are on your shelf, just because he’s decided he doesn’t like how a scene played out, and wanted to try something different with his creation…you need to step away for a moment, and rethink your priorities.  Heavens forbid you start sounding like a sports fan (which I am).  There’s never a valid reason to let a good discussion dissolve into name calling…unless, of course, someone is trying to tell you that George Lucas is the greatest writer of romantic dialogue in a Sci-Fi film, which is just laughable. 

Again, if you want to discuss who’s the bigger whiner, semi-adult Anakin Skywalker, or stuck on the farm Luke Skywalker…or why you think it matters who shot first…or how thankful we all should be Lucas didn’t add more dialog when Vader grabbed the Emperor, like, “This is for Luke, and Padme, and Mace Windu, and all of the Jedi you slew or had me slay at your insistance!  Heck, you tell him to kill me to take my spot…in front of me?”…I think it’s cool to discuss any and all of Star Wars.  Just…leave the insults off.  Unless they’re from the movies, which means they’d be quotes.  Scruffy Nerf Herders.  :)

My sympathies on the huge target you have just painted on your forehead.  Good luck.

The only problem I ever had with any of the re-edits was when the holographic Palpatine head in Empire was replaced with a smaller, saga-accurate head. By making the head smaller, the emotion of the scene was drastically altered. Where as in the original, Vader was talking with an overbearing, disembodied head, much like in the Wizard of Oz, now he is talking with something smaller and hardly menacing. The size is important because it communicates that Vader is insignificant to the Emperor, in spite of how much Vader “looks up” to Palpatine. That’s Film 101 stuff.

My earliest memory is seeing star wars in the theater in the 70s. Have every release of the film including laser discs. I have no problem with the improvements and am pretty sick of the pure hatred the fanboys spew all over the net. A opinion is one thing but the utter disgust is just plain weird. So the ewoks blink instead of looking like they have eyes ripped off of a store bought toy. Big deal. So Han shot at the same time instead of first, kinda lame but not enough to make me want to hurt myself or others. More spaceships and special effects flourishes? Cool. Of course if Lucas didn’t make changes that inspired hours of screaming and crying how would fans fill their sad, sad lives? Flame on now angry mob, your anger will have no impact on my planning to buy the new blu set next as soon as it
hits the shelf.

Unfortunately, tech becomes obsolete and not everything from the previous generation gets updated.
I had a kool Star Wars screensaver from Delrina. Art, schematics, animation, sound fx, music, the works.
It’s on 3.5 floppies. They never even put it on CD, nor did they upgrade it to use on systems post-1995.  As a result, I have an old PowerMac 9600 (with a floppy drive) just to run System 8 programs that don’t exist today.
Lots of material on vinyl still isn’t digitized.
Lots of films and tv shows on VHS still aren’t on DVD or BluRay (and probably never will be)

I quite agree… Ridley Scott has expressed similar opinions about several of his works, Blade Runner included. Stephen King has done much the same with The Stand and Dark Tower and i suspect that someday Peter Jackson will do the same with LOTR!

My Bluray plays DVD movies.  Mine must be the only one then : P

i personally dont have a problem with more ships or some added rocks it is the nooooo they are adding. it is like they are toning down one of the greatest villains of all time but it aint just this it is Lucas rewriting the entire universe for one, the added lines to the movies for 2 and all the focus on the clone wars for three. I am sick of the clone wars now i want to know what happened after the death star went bye bye(yes i have read some of the books but the empire did not fall overnight) or what happened before the movies. The only people doing it differently is the created of the Old republic the video game, and some comics. They need to take their ques from them.

I adore the movies, but this controversy is exactly why I LOVE Star Wars comics from Dark Horse and the books from Del Rey.

Continually re-editing films is normally a bad thing, and in my experience has never once resulted in a movie being improved by these additions.

Star Wars, the film that came out in 1977 was brilliant. 

Fun to look at, enjoyable story and likable cast.

The sequel, The Empire Strike Back was also pretty good, but after that film, Lucas gave up on story and decided that effects were all that matters. So, I gave up on Star Wars in the middle of the third film, and only watched the first of the new trilogy before giving up in total boredom, right about the time baby Darth wins the space chariot race. 

But my issues were not that the special effects weren’t “special” enough, it’s that the characters on the screen were increasingly dull and uninspired and that the story was predictable and really dull.

Then again, I guess that is a problem that Lucas can’t fix with any amount of new effects and shiny lights.