Why Isn’t There a New Star Trek TV Show Already?

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Why Isn’t There a New <i>Star Trek</i> TV Show Already?  

Bryan Fuller wants to do one. Seth MacFarlane wants to do one. So why isn’t there a Star Trek television series on our screens right now?

The lack of weekly Star Trek on the small screen is, on the face of it, almost inexplicable. Not only does the franchise come from television and have a history of working in almost every television incarnation (We’ll ignore Enterprise for now, like most people did when it was being broadcast), but it’s currently under the watchful eye and ownership of JJ Abrams, a man who isn’t afraid to lend his name and talents to television shows, as Lost, Alias, Person of Interest, Alcatraz and even the blink-and-you’ll-miss-it Undercovers ably demonstrates.

Plus, there’s no shortage of people who’d be willing to work on the show; Fuller, who cut his teeth working on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine way back when, has spoken multiple times about his desire to work on a new series, and just recently, the uber-successful McFarlane also admitted that he’d love to run a new television version.

Considering the potential for expansion a new Trek series would have – Remember when Deep Space Nine joined The Next Generation on the air, and there were two series running weekly simultaneously? Star Trek was Law & Order way back when – and the chance for networks to have a plug-and-play science fiction show with a guaranteed audience in these days where a new genre drama making it to three seasons can be seen as a big deal, a new Trek really seems like a no-brainer. So why isn’t it happening already?

There are three potential reasons:

#1: The Movie Guys Don’t Want To Weaken The Franchise
While a new Trek television series would be unlikely to feature the same cast as the movies – Unless Chris Pine, Simon Pegg and Zoe Saldana want to lower their asking price to television money anytime soon – it would probably exist in and around the movie continuity… but that could be problematic for the current people in charge of the franchise, who have taken two years to agree to a comic book continuation of that timeline from IDW, and canceled an announced novel series expanding the universe with all-new adventures. It makes sense from their point of view to keep Trek off the air: Why would people get excited about the idea of paying to see a new movie if they could see a version of the same idea on television every week for free? The scarcer new Trek is, the better for them.

#2: Who Has The Television Rights To Star Trek Anymore, Anyway?
The rights to the TV shows that already exist are owned by CBS, but the rights to the movies are owned by Paramount, even though Paramount made all of the shows all along. Confused? It gets stranger when you discover that CBS isn’t involved in the Trek movies at all, despite “owning” the franchise, and actually being known as CBS Paramount Television officially these days. So does Paramount own the rights to make new Star Trek television? Does CBS? And if it’s the latter, do they have the rights to base it on the movies, considering they don’t own those…? It’s possible that the reason that no-one has forced the issue of new Trek television is because no-one really wants to try and untangle the rights issues.

#3: Would New Trek Television Even Succeed Without Losing Its Trekness?
I’m not sure that what makes Star Trek the television show that it is would necessarily work on modern television without losing what made it so great to begin with. But… Well, let’s wait until tomorrow to explain this one.

Until then, use the comments: Would you want to see more Star Trek on television? And if so, who would you like to see run it? McFarlane, Fuller or someone entirely different?

  • Shaun

    OK, so having read some of the other comments here maybe I got this thing wrong. Apparently, CBS doesn’t own Paramount? I didn’t realize that Paramount is now licensing Trek from CBS, and doesn’t actually own it anymore. I guess it’s a bit more comvoluted than I realized.

    Anyhow, mea culpa!

  • Rowlenthunder

    I actually think Voyager captured much more of the spirit of the original series than the others.  Admittedly, season 3 had a slow start, but episodes like ‘Deathwish’ and ‘Critical Care’ were everything that made the original series so great:  social and politically moral plays. 

    On another note, Abrams has his plate full with projects-the latest rumor being he was interested in directing ‘Wicked,’ the stage musical film version.  Paramount has always treated Star Trek like a stepchild. 

    But a series would not have to tie in with the movies at all.  It could remain in the same timeline as the other series.

  • None

    You missed the real reason, which is the same reason TNG was cancelled when it was : you can do far less work, and make a lot more money, making a film every 2-3 years than working on a 22-episode season every single year.

    A TV show is always going to be limited in the amount of money it makes, and you have to produce a lot more content.  Or, every couple of years make a film, which has the potential to make more all at once than a TV show could make over it’s lifetime.

    It’s a no-brainer why we haven’t seen a new Trek TV show – it’s not worth the money for the limited potential gains, especially when they have a brand-new white-hot franchise that they miraculously somehow didn’t alienate the entire existing fanbase for.  Should the film series start to falter, only then will you see Trek back on TV.

  • leroy jazzmatazz

    Seth MacFarlane need not fuck Star Trek.

  • ATK

    No one saw Leslie Neilson as anything other than a dramatic actor and then he got cast in Police Squad! and now hardly anyone remembers the old dramatic Neilson. Point is perceptions change just because a person is on tv doesn’t mean you know who they are or how well they will fit something until you try.

  • ATK

    Wow, lot more hate for MacFarlane than I had hoped to see. I would be willing to give him a shot. I have been thinking for a while now that what we need is a Star Trek Anthology series, sort of like Outer Limits esque, different story from week to week but set in the same universe.

  • Anonymous

    I haven’t really been a fan of Star Trek. I’ve watched the new movie (which I loved) and I did watch a few DS9 episodes which I liked.

    But anything with Bryan Fuller attached is a must watch for me! ;)

  • Conjal

    How can there be a new TV show? The new Star Trek movie, re-wrote history remember… So we would have to have a “Original Star Trek”. With Kirk and junk…. and does anyone really want to see them stuff that up?

  • http://profiles.google.com/lcromy Lance Cromwell

    Your a moron. Get your head out of Obama’s liberal commie ass.

  • JD

    I’d definitely love a new Trek TV series. I liked all the TV series and have watched every episode of all of them, not counting the original ones. Just never was one for older TV shows I guess, they tend to have more glossed over social aspects I don’t like, where newer shows, in general at least, tend to be more real, have characters that are less archetypal or idealized. Never watched the new movie either, did watch the Next Gen movies. I’d like a TV show if it was like Net Gen, DS9, Voyager, or even Enterprise (didn’t watch it when it 1st came out either, but I tried it later on and was surprised by how good it was once I got past the bad first impression it seemed to give off). Maybe something like “Star Trek The 3rd Generation” or something. Something culturally relevant, current seeming, and aspirational towards humanity’s better qualities like those 4 series I watched always were for the times they were made. The movie, eh, can’t say for sure without having seen it, but the whole thing just seemed kind of like a stunt, a bit of flash, bit of nostalgia, but nothing compelling that at all grabbed my attention or piqued my interest. Plus, I do tend to like series more than movies, generally. Star Trek has always been about pushing the boundaries of what’s new though, about the future. Even Enterprise did that in it’s way. It wasn’t a re-hash of old stuff, it was original and had a lot to say, all-be-it not in a readily apparent to see by first brush kind of way. If there’s a new series, I’d really like to see it have it’s own voice, something new we haven’t seen before that keeps the essence of what made past shows great while going it’s own way.

  • Anonymous

    I’ll have to disagree.  My wife (who had no Star Trek experience prior to meeting me, while I’ve seen every episode of every show except the last season of Enterprise) are now going through Voyager, and once we hit the third season, it was as fantastic as I remembered.  The first two seasons had serious issues, but once it hit its stride, man did it hit its stride.  Amazing story arcs, great acting and effects that hold up fourteen years later.  That said, I would love to see a new series.  Having TNG and DS9, and then DS9 and Voyager, in tandem for so long was like a sci-fi continuity-geek’s dream; having just one series will be a tease.

  • Tom

    I want star trek back on TV and I think Peter David’s Star Trek New Frontier book series is a great blueprint to put it back on.

  • Shawn Richison

    Is it a requirement that conservative capitalists can not or will not learn to use correct spelling and/or grammar?

  • Poolvet

    Its not on TV anymore because Star Trek is boring.Soap opera on a space ship,formulaic weekly
    redundancy.

  • Captlobi

    The new movie created an alternate timeline. The tv universe that we have watched in the past still exists.

  • Anonymous

    They can only make a new TV show if it is base on the prime universe. 

    An get rid of the butt ugle enterprise. 

  • Jmcreer

    Add me to the “Voyager is excellent” category.  It was the Trek series that got my wife interested in the franchise.  She is also a huge fan of Enterprise as well, as am I.  In fact, I’m a fan of all the series, but have a preference for the Trek movies, then Voyager, and Enterprise as well.  STNG is OK but the early series looks too dated (what’s up with spandex?)

    Most of the backlash that Enterprise got (and still gets) was from a small but vocal group who were overly focused on continuity and couldn’t understand how a show that predated the original trek series couldn’t look “retro.”  Making a show that had a crew and technology that appeared less advanced than a show from the sixities was ludicrous.  That, and the fact that they disliked Jonathan Archer and his crew apparently undercutting Jim Kirk and his crew’s status as the originators of everything Trek.

    But like I said, I like them all…

  • Jmcreer

    Enteprise didn’t ruin anything – Star Trek had run it’s course and the majority of the public were bored with it.  Everyone takes cheap shots at the show but neglect to remember how the last two STNG movies were absolute duds at the box office. 

    Star Trek was viewedby the public as a stale franchise, both on TV and in the cinemas.  The public was looking for something fresh – which accounts for the success of Battlestar Galactica at that time.

  • Cjorg2

    You make no sense

    Abram’s movie remains the most successful Trek film to date.  As a result, it succeeded despite a handful of anal Trek fans who “refused” to see it (we know they did anyway.)

    And your suggestion of a movie version of  ”Enterprise in The Romulan War” sounds weird in the context of you also admitting the lack of success regarding the series.  Why on Earth would anyone see a film version of a series nobody watched?  You have heard of Firefly haven’t you?

  • Anonymous

    Not as bad as the last film, Trek on TV never got that bad. 

  • Gsidoti

    Your first reason is correct, most likely. Sucks that we get denied new Trek because Abrams is fickle and greedy.

  • Anonymous

    Season 3 Enterprise was some of the best Star trek has ever produce, just behind a few of DS9 dominion war episodes.

  • Anonymous

    We are few but there are still a lot us who did not like Abrams new ST movie. 

    I am a Albrams fan, I love Lost, Alias and Fringe, and several of his other films, Star Trek is by far his worst film to date and the worst thing he has ever work on in my book, along with the film being the worst film in the franchise. 

  • Cjorg2

    TNG was never cancelled.  It was always their intention to do 7 seasons and then move into films.  DS9 and Voyager were also 7 seasons and were not cancelled.  Only Enterprise was cancelled after 4 seasons.

    You seem to have little understanding of TV shows and the money they generate.  Especially such a HUGE franchise like Trek.  Not only do they earn a lot of money via advertising at the time of their first airings, they make additional money via syndication.  Original Trek, STNG, DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise are still generating huge amounts of revenue globally in syndication.  In addition the series are continually selling on DVD, not too mention remastered versions (original Trek).  In the future they’ll make even MORE money when they are eventually released on Bluray.

    Compare that to one film, (it’s box office and DVD/ Bluray sales, TV viewing revenue).  There’s a good reason why they (not to mention George Lucas) know there’s a lot of money to be made in TV land.

    IMO the only reason they have yet to create a new Trek series is that they are biding their time to find the right series.  There’s a lot of scifi competition on TV these days – they are likely waiting to come up with a concept that will grab audiences and stand out from the crowd. 

  • Rowlenthunder

    My point about ‘Enterprise’ is based on the writing for the first three years.  Many (including myself) hated the ‘temporal war’ storyline.  The last season was far better, largely because of a change the writing staff.  The show had great characters, ones I’d like to see again.  I’ve always felt Enterprise was ended just as they got it right.  So, yes, ‘Enterprise-The Romulon War’ is a movie I’d love to see.

  • Rowlenthunder

    Your comment about the original series having ‘glossed over social aspect’ is interesting, but one of the very reasons we love the show is because of the way it commented on social and political issues.  Star Trek TOS was the first to show an interracial kiss, and had episodes that made statements on prejudice, war, etc.  And if you view the show now, (on netflix) they have episodes with the updated special effects.  I still kinda like the old ones…simply cause their good.

  • Bass Guitar Hero

    There was a time (not too long ago) in which Viacom did own both CBS and Paramount and Star Trek’s movie and television divisions were all under the same umbrella (generally known as “the Rick Berman Era”). But years of feuding and working at cross-purposes between CBS and Viacom convined their mutual owner that they would work best as separate entities. The split occurred in 2006, and CBS acquired the rights to Paramount Television (including every Star Trek series), while Viacom retained Paramount Pictures (the movie division and library).

    Under the new arrangement, Paramount can continue to make Star Trek movies with a license from CBS, but CBS owns the overall copyrights to everything Trek, with Paramount’s control limited to the movies and their distribution (both in theatres and on home video).    

  • http://www.facebook.com/owen.ground Owen Ground

    That’s exactly what makes it interesting. And don’t diss soap operas.

  • Anonymous

    While staring at our Trekkie navels, it seems we’ve missed the uber obvious … Vampires, werewolves, zombies, demons, and all other sorts of creepie crawlies are very much IN these days. Until that trend runs its course there will be little room for much sci fi, much less Star Trek.

  • Anonymous

    Actually, the big change for Leslie Nielsen was in the movie ‘Airplane!’ by the same people. Police Squad came two years later and died quickly with only six episodes produced before they pulled the plug. And he was in comedies prior to Airplane!, just nothing memorable.

    Seth McFarlane has no shortage of opportunity to demonstrate he can do other things. He needs to do that before someone is going to trust him with Trek, played out as it is.

  • Ks4evr

    I’d love to see someone, anyone, who can be faithful to Mister Roddenberry’s concept take up the reins and do a new Star Trek television show.  His ideals were what spoke most loudly and clearly, and those ideals are still something that we, here 45 years later, still need to hear and see played out.  His hope for the future of mankind, and his willingness to dare and express what he felt needed to addressed in our world is what made the original series, albeit after it’s too soon cancellation, resonnate with so many people.  His undying optimism for the future of all inspired so many.  In today’s world that kind of outlook is sorely needed.

  • Anonymous

    I think the only way a Star Trek series could work is if its on basic or premium cable. Network TV is simply not the place for high concept sci-fi shows anymore.

    And while I love what the Abrams Star Trek has done with the alnerate universe, I think a new Star Trek TV show should introduced a new cast of characters and mission instead just rehashing more of the Kirk era.

  • Larry

    They need to do a new show – but far in the future from the TNG/DS9/VOY era. Like 150 – 200 years. They could bring back some older characters like Tuvok, and a CGI Data perhaps as a cameo since both would still be around. 

    Could also bring back Sisko out of the wormhole where he’s been living since DS9 ended, lol. 

    Lot’s of opportunity to continue and advance the story beyond the TNG/DS9/VOY era of the Federation. Send a few ships out to the Andromeda galaxy. I really hope if they ever do a new series it advances the federation. We have enough prequels now with Star Trek 2009 and Enterprise. 

    Many characters would still be alive in 150 – 200 years; Tuvok, Dax, Data, a couple others… add in some new characters, some relatives of the original crew and TNG and ship them out to the Andromeda galaxy and beyond.  That is what I want to see as a fan; advance the series. 

    However, we’re not getting a new show until the current Star Trek movie arc is done. Which probably won’t be until 2016 or so. 

  • http://twitter.com/jfp1986 John Pannozzi

    For the record, though, Viacom and CBS are still both owned by Sumner Redstone (through his company National Amusements, IIRC).  So they might be willing to work together, but then again, I don’t know the inner workings and politics of these companies, I’m mostly going off of what I’ve read on Wikipedia.

  • SVR

    Star Trek is utopian at its heart. The cynicism of our current era has not yet 
    exhausted us to the point where we’ll actually believe in a utopian future. When the world starts to look brighter again, then Star Trek will probably grace our screens once again.

  • http://www.facebook.com/strivearth Zen Strive

    I want more Star Trek TV series. The last great scifi series is probably Star Trek The Next Generation or Stargate or Babylon V that comes out when TV is more innocent, opening credit was honorable to the artists involved, and episodic TV series is the norm.

  • http://www.facebook.com/strivearth Zen Strive

    That would be no, unless they make it like Legend of Galactic Heroes or Tytania: intrigues, betrayals, infightings, tactics, strategies, oh my!

  • Cjorg2

    It might be the film you’d want to see, but a movie based on a failed TV series doesn’t result in a “guaranteed mega blockbuster film.”  It results in a movie that only a few diehard fans see, and most ignore.  Like Firefly and to a lesser extent, Tron: Legacy (sure it made 400 million, but cost 170 million to make, and that’s categorised as underperforming)

  • Bass Guitar Hero

    I was actually referring to Mr. Redstone when I said “their mutual owner.” CBS and Viacom did not work well together when they were under the same umbrella (Viacom co-founded the EPIX channel to compete against the CBS-owned Showtime, for example). There was also reportedly bad blood between the heads of both companies too. Since Mr. Redstone still got paid whether CBS and Viacom worked together or not, he opted to separate them in 2006 and Paramount was divided between them in the divorce. CBS got what was formerly Paramount Television (with ownership of Star Trek as part of that), while Viacom kept Paramount Pictures.

    Paramount continues to serve as a home video distributor for the various CBS properties, but CBS began removing the famous Paramount mountain logo from the end credits of their properties in 2009 (future releases of Star Trek TV show DVDs and blu-rays will have the CBS Studios logo instead).  

  • JAM

    I’d love to see a CGI re-animation of the original Star Trek animated series. Re-use the voices (but please not the music) with far better modern-day animation.

  • Ryan

    Seth McFarlane currently has 3 running shows, and has produced numerous other shorts, and they’re all the same thing. We’ll see how he handles his upcoming version of the Flintstones though.

    Also, if you ask me, he’s not even that good of an animator. Family Guy has recently gotten much better, but a show shouldn’t need 10 years to find its animation groove.

  • Matthias

    I think, if Gene Roddenberry would live in our times, he would not get one single chance for his bold, new, optimistic idea. This needs bold people who are ready to take a risk. No one wants to take a risk in our times. Maybe this is the shadow of that very brutal trade-rivalry between the broadcast-stations.

  • Mak

    A little over dramatic are we?

  • Mak

    The animation style changed when it returned in 2005 (Or what ever date it is).

  • Duder

    Hey I’m a longtime Trek fan, but it’s rather obvious what fans thought of a TV series from 10, 20 or 40 years ago just doesn’t matter.

    Any new Trek series will be built for either a new audience, or that and the people that got on board with the Abrams reboot.

    Old fans?  Not a factor.  Like…at all.

  • Duder

    Larry, why would they bring back characters from the 90s era Trek?  I doubt they’d even touch the TNG characters, let alone TNG’s spinoffs.

    Everything from DS9-forward is 100% over, at least onscreen.  A new show would be in the reboot universe, likely in the same time period as the film.

  • Ryan

    The animation from 2005 still looked like crap to me. I’m talking about in maybe the last season or so the quality has jumped tremendously. They even have an updated intro now.

  • Robert28_

    Trek on tv.  Heaven!

  • Rick Cromack

    Not yet, not for awhile… Nowhere close to “right now”, actually. For several easons: First, IF “Trek” is to SUCCEED — and not merely exist, for a time — on television, it MUST break out of old-school, comfortable, predictable, hackneyed, formulaic “Trek” — and I’m not at all certain that ONE MOVIE, excellent and innovative though it was, has altered franchise momentum enough to make that a given. Second, Abrams has an EXTREMELY spotty record when it comes to series television, with only ONE true, CONSISTENT all-around success story (critical praise, ratings, AND longevity): “Lost”, and it may well be dismissed as both gimmick AND fluke. Third, I don’t want the talent pool diluted… And I’m NOT talking about the actors, but the screenwriters. A “Trek” series relaunch can only lead at this point to a lowering of standards all around. I’d rather see “Trek” remain exacting, innovative, special… And, yes, rare.

  • Skyhawk396

    Yes, please make another star trek.  Ive been impatiently waiting for another star trek to air on the small screen.  Hoping for the version that takes place after voyager, but honestly I wont complain.  Just start a new series already and do your best to make it interesting and inspiring.