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At Its Core, The Avengers Is Really an Allegory, Mark Ruffalo Says

As we devote our spare time to gleaning the identity of the secret villain or worrying about the 3D-conversion process, we may be losing sight of the deeper meaning of The Avengers. Yes, it has one: It turns out that Joss Whedon’s ensemble film is an allegory … for the American experience.

“You have all these disparate egos, superheroes in this and that, and they refuse to give up some of their positions in order to make a more perfect union and to join the team,” star Mark Ruffalo tells The Wall Street Journal’s Speakeasy blog. “That’s really what the whole movie is about: subjugating your own best interest momentarily to further that of the whole.”

And as both Bruce Banner and the Incredible Hulk, the actor should know a little something about ego — and id.

Opening May 4, the film also stars Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man,  Chris Hemsworth as Thor, Chris Evans as Captain America, Jeremy Renner as Hawkeye, Scarlett Johansson as Black Widow, Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury, Tom Hiddleston as Loki, Clark Gregg as Agent Phil Coulson, Cobie Smulders as Agent Maria Hill and Stellan Skarsgård as Dr. Selvig.


  • Coryjameson

    From what I’ve heard of the storyline of the movie at IO9. Avengers is going to be ass because Kevin Feige and other studio asshats have had to much influence on the movie. The shapeshifting aliens are NOT the Skrulls, they’re some generic substitute aliens. And, Thanos is involved. And the Midgard Serpent. 

    The previews we’ve seen have been rather dull and boring. Doesn’t it concern everyone that the excitement is purely based on reputation ALONE?! And not on the actual script of footage of the film?!

    The whole Loki/Thor garbage is all just so much cognitive dissonance. They don’t belong in a science fiction movie.

  • Soupowens

    Haters gonna hate. 

  • Anonymous

    Reputation is a better yardstick than nothing at all. The movie could very well be crap, but we won’t know for sure until we’re given something more concrete to measure it by.
    Certainly most of us are hoping feverishly that our anticipation is well placed.
    I (for one) hope Thanos is in the movie. Typically a great villain on the page, he could potentially translate well onto the big screen.

  • Joe Soap

    Bit early to be expecting anything much more than actor’s lines and reactions to action scenes in a teaser trailer.

  • Anonymous

    Yeah, I love to wig out about completely unconfirmed rumors too. 

    Oh wait … no, I don’t.

    The aliens are called The Redacted, because Fox owns the rights to the Skrulls???  The REDACTED!  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!  Someone needs to look up what the term ‘redacted’ means and when it used in documents hahahahahahahaaa.  Oh gawd …

  • AirDave

    I liked the Firefly TV series and the Serenity film. Whedon’s take on the X-Men was pretty good. Based on that, I’m willing to expect that The Avengers won’t suck too badly…

  • Rich

    The shapeshifting aliens weren’t Skrulls in the Marvel’S THE Ultimates comics, on which the films are loosely based, either.  It didn’t affect their quality.

    Thor and Loki have been part of Marvel’s shared universe, which includes superhero, espionage, sci-fi, fantasy, and other elements, for fifty years.  They fit just fine.

  • Squashua

    It is my opinion that that poster looks nothing like Ruffalo.

  • Mwedmer

    Well Coryjameson, This is the origin of the Avengers. In the first issue, it had Loki using a shapeshifting race of aliens known as the Space Phantoms, to imitate the Hulk, in order to cause trouble for his brother Thor.Imagine that! Thor, a sci-fi character in a sci-fi film that is going back to the origin of the concept in order to introduce the characters as they were in -The Beginning-, just like they have in all of their other films.

    Looking foreward to it. As for the Skrulls, they are not in the control of FOX or SONY.

  • Mcdropkick

    They probably can’t use Skrulls because Fox owns the rights to all the Fantastic Four characters, and the Skrulls could fall under that umbrella.

  • Landon Kolsky

    Good rant…too bad Kevin Feige confirmed Marvel Studios own the rights to Skrulls back in 2009.

  • Mrhashasheen

    Fake! Hulk manages to talk some amusing bullshit.

  • Lord Prong

    At his core, Cory is really a no-talent, digruntled, envious, fanboy Lord Prong says.

  • Max LaChance

    The skrulls are part of the Fantastic Four deal which is controlled by Fox.

  • WhedonSux

    what a boring platitude.

  • Lanternsmight99

    True, the Ultimates sucked, but not because of the name of am alien race.

  • Magnusjragnarok

    They have not appeared in any of the FF or X-Men movies. There is no basis for Fox Studios to be in control of the IP.

  • Anonymous

    Actually they WERE Skrulls.  Turns out that the Chitauri, iirc, was a pejorative term for the Skrulls.  Anyway, more info at the Wiki:

  • Jon

    Wow, that is NOT Mark Ruffalo’s best angle. Did he put on 50 lbs of fat for this role or something?

  • Hosstbl1

    Funny how pretentious actors seem to confuse theme and allegory.

  • sephy

    You should check your sources before telling other people to check theirs.

    The Skrulls were confirmed to not fit under the FF property back in 2009.

  • Jon

    Funny how pretentious fans feel the need to point it out.

  • Jacob

    It’s better than his Blue Steel thing.

  • Jacob

    “Kevin Feige and other studio asshats have had to much influence on the movie”

    They’ve been significantly involved in each of the Marvel Studios movies.

  • B-Moffitt

    No, They Don’t.

  • Alton

    You mean we gotta sit through allegory now? This is getting way thick for a fun but second rate concept about a step above Power Rangers.When is the first college seminar on this nonsense going to be held?

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  • MrV

    If you saw the Thor movie you will have noticed for the continuity of Marvel Cinematic Universe the Asgardians and Frost Giants were not written as “gods” but more as aliens.

    As explained in the Thor film, they were given godly status by the early humans but in reality they are extraterrestrials of an advanced civilization from another dimension or “realm.”

    How do aliens not fit into science fiction?