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Avengers Is So Big It Dwarfs Other Marvel Films, FX Supervisor Says

Chris Wells has worked as special effects supervisor on an impressive line-up of superhero movies: Captain America: The First Avenger, The Incredible Hulk, Fantastic Four, X-Men and Green Lantern. So when he told Total Film that Marvel’s The Avengers is the biggest and best of the bunch, that’s saying something.

“I went to a screening with all the temporary visual effects and it was pretty fleshed out,” Wells said. “It’s a long movie but it doesn’t feel like it. Out of all the comic book movies and franchises I’ve worked on, this is the best one I’ve seen so far.” And that’s just from test footage!

He also said the pre-credits opening sequence serves as a prelude, adding, “There’s nothing small in this movie.”

“I promise you it’s not going to be boring,” Wells said. “This thing has gone so big that Marvel are dwarfing their other franchises. For people who enjoy the comics and haven’t really liked the way some of the characters were treated in other movies, I think they’re going to be a little more appeased by this one. Especially the Hulk. They let the Hulk be Hulk and that’s great. He acts more like the comic book Hulk. It’s fun. My biggest problem with every single superhero movie is I don’t think the payoff ever matches the build up. This one definitely does.”

Directed by Joss Whedon, The Avengers stars Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man, Chris Hemsworth as Thor, Chris Evans as Captain America, Mark Ruffalo as the Incredible Hulk, Jeremy Renner as Hawkeye, Scarlett Johansson as Black Widow, Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury, Clark Gregg as Agent Phil Coulson, Cobie Smulders as Agent Maria Hill and Stellan Skarsgård as Dr. Selvig. It opens May 4.


  • Keil

    I only big meant good

    But it doesn’t

  • pDUB

    as if i could get more pumped for this movie.

    oh and Keil, he goes on to say its also good, not just big, did you um.. read past the title?

  • Keil

    No guy – I don’t need someone to tell me what is good – I can determine
    it for myself – from the crappy special effects and costumes, the utter
    plotlessness, the b-list actors, the lets-throw-one-female-in-the-lineup, the terrible dialog, the… … … to infinity

    I mean just look at that still up there. 2 stupid-looking costumes, some fake-looking cars, and some CGI smoke – lol

    This is Busch League moviemaking – and the amazing thing is they pour tons on money into it

  • Michael J

    Dc comics take note.This is how you do it.What’s the point of having a library of iconic money making comic book characters if you’re not going to use them? Marvel comics ain’t playing.They are going to get as much of their characters out there (even the less known ones) on the big screen and the small screen.

    Dc comics is always hesitant when it comes to showing off their most iconic heroes.They’ve basically limited themselves to just giving us small doses of their comic book characters.I mean really? Green Lantern 2? or even a reboot of that character? lol.seriously?

  • Brian Middleton Jr

    How did you figure out that it’s plotless already?

  • Bob

    Those that can’t do, bitch.

  • Glenn Wakeling

    I cant wait to see it , it sounds Spectacular. Go Avengers

  • Keil

    lol – have you seen the previews?? I’ll give you a hint – since you need
    to be lead by the nose. They make no attempt at all to give you a plot.
    Remember that stupid gladiator movie that came out a couple months ago
    with Micky Rourke (called Immortals)?? Remember how they made no attempt to
    give you a plot in the previews?? Remember that forgettable 3 Musketeers
    movie that came out a month ago – all the previews had was medieval
    people dodging arrows and swords like the Matrix – with no plot??

    Now remember the preview to The Grey that just came out. Remember how
    they gave you some sense of the plot (wife at home, plane down, man vs
    wolves) – all that from a brief preview. Yep, if you have any nose at
    all you can smell the ones that have a plot and the ones that are all
    eye candy and “KEWL!!!”

    Sorry I’m criticizing a movie that you love so much

  • Jay Dieterich

    so, countering what appears to be some sort of alien invasion is not a plot?

    but the captain america costume is pretty weak…

  • LightningBug

    Your criticism of the costumes and the set pieces is your opinion (although I happen to like the look of the movie) but have you considered that the trailer doesn’t include a lot of plot details because the studio is being secretive? Those low budget throwaway action movies you mentioned might not have much in the way of plot, and for all we know this doesn’t either, but this is a big movie that is poised to be very successful (unlike the movies you brought up which were never prioritized by a studio and performed marginally just as they were expected to) and one of the ways that studios build hype for a huge movie like this is by being tight lipped about big plot details. It’s called building anticipation. Comparing the Avengers with “The Immortals” is a false equvilancy. As far as budget, importance to the studio, and marketing techniques are concerned they have absolutely nothing in common. As for quality, that remains to be seen because the movie has not come out yet and you couldn’t possibly know. 

  • Keil

    lol – if you have to go to those lengths to try to defend the movie – then yeah, it probably isn’t going to be good

    “building anticipation” – you gave me a laugh for the day with that one

    Let’s call this what it is – a shallow popcorn flick. I’ll applaud a
    marvel move when they actually try for something more than “BIG” “WOW”

    Nobody’s looking for Shakespeare – but there have been some great
    stories told in the pages of Cap, Avengers, Hulk – still waiting to see
    any semblance of such quality STORY on the big screen

  • sephy

    Your opinion should just be thrown away, because it’s pretty clear that you’re just going out of your way to find reasons to hate this movie and are selectively ignoring things in order to further your hate for a movie that isn’t even out yet. 

  • Keil

    lol – and you’re taking it awfully personally for a movie “that isn’t even out yet”

  • Murphworld

    sorrier that you’re criticizing a movie you havent seen yet

  • pDUB

    i see nobody “taking it awfully personally” more than i see that YOU are in fact taking people disagreeing with you personally and trying to defend your position that has no factual basis behind it (other than your opinions)

    Couple that with the fact that NO ONE in the public has actually seen it, least of all you…

  • LightningBug

    I’m not really defending the movie so much as disagreeing with somebody who is acting like a serial contrarian. Do speak to people this way in person or do you just get off on the anonymity that the internet provides you?

  • Brian Middleton Jr

    To start, I cannot love a movie that has not yet come out.  Just like you cannot know that the movie is plotless.  Since we are using movie trailers as an example, did you see Hugo?  The trailer was totally misleading.  The movie was fantastic, but what the story appeared to be about in the trailer, was not, in fact, what the movie was about.  The Avengers movie appears to be about Loki, with an army of aliens, attacking New York, and the Avengers seeking to overcome both Loki, and their internal issues.  That, to me, seems to satisfy the definition of plot, at least in my book.  

    To finish, sorry for bringing logic into a conversation that seems severely one-sided in the intelligence department.

    I hope you have a great day! :D

  • Anonymous

    Let it go, man. The guy is clearly an idiot.  Quit feeding the effin’ troll. 

  • JK

     keil, im glad its the fake cars that annoy you. tell me inyour mind what is a good movie? not just a super hero movie…any movie..also…your complaining..but you will end up seeign the movie anyways…i dare you not to see the movie.
    i would also like to hear what would be a good plot, coming from someone who has no filming experience.

  • Keil

    Yep – that would be a (possibly) decent plot for a 15 minute cartoon – but not for a multi-million dollar blockbuster movie

    As far as using the trailers as an example – what else are you supposed to use??

    Your Hugo example is appreciated – but it is also a rare example. For
    probably 90% of movies, what you see beforehand is pretty much what you
    get. When i saw Clash of the Titans, it was pretty much what I thought
    it would be. Same with Sucker Punch, same with Inception, on and on

    Everything that I’ve said about the trailers and images released so
    is true. Dumb costumes – check Captain America, check Thor. B-level
    – why did they get rid of Ed Norton? It’s almost as if they said “We
    have to pay Downy Jr and Sam Jackson. So we got no-name playing Thor and
    just get one more b-level for Hulk so we don’t have too many
    a-listers. After all – we have to spend money on those fake-looking cars
    back there”

    Yes folks it’s these clues that give us an inkling of what to expect for
    the film. Unless you just like spending $15 to be SURE something isn’t
    that good. I for one don’t have to touch a hot stove to know it’s hot

    PS – I enjoyed Sucker Punch. I took it for what it was, hot chicks with
    guns. And I did not get angry when someone pointed its deficiencies

  • hysanadu

    Obvious troll is obvious.

  • Ducksh!t

    Ed Norton didn’t want to do it. I don’t think it was about money.

  • Keil

    Well you’re wrong about me seeing it. I quit marvel movies years ago. The last one I saw was Iron Man

    I’m not sure what you mean about a good movie? Do you want examples??
    There are a wide range – I mentioned Inception, Sin City was great, the
    last Batman movie was really good – could be anything though. I recently
    saw Die Hard 3 on TV again – solid plot, good dialog and banter, great
    chemistry between Sam Jackson and Bruce Willis, genuine humor

    But who really cares. In this thread – I’ve basically asked for Avengers
    to have costumes that don’t suck, actors that aren’t b-list
    (particularly the Johnny Storm Cap guy), and a good script for once,
    particularly since there is such a wellspring of good source material to
    draw from. The 3 demands are REALLY unreasonable and must come from an
    angry curmudgeon and a troll

  • DonMullet

    Glad to know you’ve already seen the movie before it’s even finished. 

  • Magnetic Eye

    I’ve been reading Avengers since 1975 and I’m really peeved about the omission of original founding members Ant Man & Wasp. I’m also not a fan of the over-rated “Ultimates” series which this film seems to be based on instead of Marvel’s original and mainstream Avengers comic book series. 

    Personally I would love to give Whedon the benefit of the doubt. I will still see the movie because it’s a MARVEL STUDIO production and they are some what better than the Fox Abattoirs and Phony Sony offerings.

    However, I’m still not a fan of Whedon’s episodic TV screenwriting or directing and fear this film will read like an extended TV episode albeit with an enormous budget, lots of explosions and typical Whedonesque snarly dialogue.

    The film’s aesthetics looks grand and epic thanks largely to world renowned Seamus McGarvey who is an Oscar-nominated cinematographer, but MARVEL / DISNEY should have hired a critically acclaimed (A list) Director to helm what should have been a ground breaking cinematic epic.

    Avengers will do well at the box office because of it’s large fan base, but will not be of the same caliber as a LOTR, ALIENS or TDK.

  • Anonymous

     Mahilig makisawsaw at makihalo ang bwakanangina.  Effin troll effin troll ka dyan.  Nakabasa ka lang ng phrase, nag aastang expert ka na?


    Supalpal ang supot.