Who Won Summer 2012 In Terms of Movies?

Calling Avengers as deep as Independence Day is a fair judgement IMO. It had a basic plot ( aliens want to invade Earth for an unexplained reason, they want the cosmic cube to rule the universe, blah, blah, blah – basic comic plot from the 60`s) Loki`s motivation was pathetic ( yeah, they`re going to make you ruler of Earth – seriously?) the dialogue was just as corny (apart from Starks) – the Cap collector cards guilt trip was ludicrous and overdone, and if u hadn`t seen the previous films incomprehensible. There were a lot of great moments, don`t get me wrong, but if seeing the Hulk punch Thor makes you think it`s a film of depth, you`re wrong. It was a film structured around a bunch of action scenes and corny dialogue. So comparing it to Independence Day, and even Michael Bay`s Armageddon is an accurate statement. I`m surprised we didn`t have Cap crying ala Ben Affleck made his sacrifice play now thatt I think of it.
Insulting? Seriously? Who am I insulting by putting forward my opinion. Sems you have a fragile ego if your opinion of yourself is wrapped up in how I see the Avengers film. You need therapy.

I`m a huge Batman fan, but I can only remember 1 fanboy moment inDKR and that was the Robin reveal. However I am, and have always been a Marvel fanboy, particularly Cap – but Avengers was primarily a film structured around a number of action scenes the plot had to service, and numerous fanboy moments. It was great, but lacked depth. It was very much the tone of your average Bronze Age Marvel Avengers comic. But that`s not a bad thing – sometimes its OK to have dessert for dinner instead of a main meal.

Now you’re not even reading the comments you’re replying to. I didn’t say Nolan was embarrassed of his movie. He’s embarrassed of the comics they are based off of and it is obvious in the artistic choices that he’s made. And don’t tell me to do my research on Whedon. He has at least four shows with cult followings, and has written some awesome comics: something Nolan has never done. He’s vastly more invested in the Superhero genre than Nolan, and it is quite evident because he has made a movie that celebrates them instead of hiding them behind unconvincing realism. Nolan is certainly a more accomplished film maker, having commanded the box office numerous times, but this summer he lost on merit. His approach to a superhero movie seemed tired when compared to Whedon’s love-letter-to-comics of a movie. Both of these movies were great, but at the end of Avengers I was pumped, and at the end of DKR I was exhausted.

I love people who take the time to purposefully misspell isn’t for ain’t in a way to appear tougher and thus more convincing. 

Your purposeful misuse of speling has convinced me sir!! Hurrah!!

Lol, really? Talking about someones typing choice? :p

There’s a difference between an opinion and an agenda…he’s not exactly “convincing” anyone to do anything, its just another opinion in a comments section…

LOL @ the comic book pissing contest.
God, comic book nerds are adorable.

Both movies rocked.
The Avengers was obviously the bigger blockbuster because it brought in more money.

That’s all there is to it.

Move on….

If they bought tickets in advance but then didn’t go, those sales are still counted in box office results…

With The Avengers box office numbers, obviously it appealed to away more people than just “fanboys”

The only challenging part was trying to figure out all the plot holes and giant leaps of logic needed to make TDKR cohesive. Figuring out immediately that Miranda Tate was actually Talia and that Blake was gonna replace B Wayne took no effort at all.

Which is just one of the franchises biggest faults, really. At least in Avengers it seemed as if each character got equal screen time. Unfortunately with TDKR, each character got the equal amount of screen time in that movie, too, when it was really supposed to be about Batman.

Nah, I was exhausted because the film was a bit of a dour, loveless slog with little to no emotional resonance to speak of. It was certainly exciting, but it missed the mark on emotion. There was no real sense of betrayal with Tate/Talia. There was no great reckoning for Bane. Alfred’s departure was a hackneyed mess of overwritten dialogue. The subplots about the corrupt business men were shoehorned into the film, and I felt nothing about them. The romantic connection between Tate and Bruce was an afterthought. I could go on. When a film aspires to hit a sophisticated emotional resonance and falls short it can be exhausting to watch, especially because the obvious comparison to the previous “Dark Knight” must be drawn and that film was so much more successful with emotional resonance. Im certainly not attempting to say that Avengers had greater emotional depth, but it succeeded in hitting the the marks it set out to hit, and I don’t believe that TDKR did. It over reached and fell short.

I’m sorry that I haven’t included a personal attack on any of your intelligence for disagreeing with my opinion, as that appears to be the custom at this point in the discussion.

One of the strongest betrayals of the movie was when Selina Kyle turned on Batman and locked him in a sewer tunnel with Bane. When Wayne teleports back to Gotham, that whole betrayal is waxed over with a cheesy one-liner.

 That would be a legendary Batman movie.

Especially since that plot was already used in “Hulk.”

On that note, how did Wayne get out of the desert? That whole thing was glossed over.

Batman Begins provides the blueprint for how Wayne got back to Gotham. It really isn’t that far-fetched for a guy with his connections to catch an aircraft here and a boat there. And he did start by using his feet.

because it sucked?????

Maybe you and Lightningbug can have a pity party and invite all your friends.

Lol, you crack me up Jack/Jock.