Why Do Fans Want to See the Original Cast in the New Star Wars?

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Why Do Fans Want to See the Original Cast in the New <i>Star Wars</i>?  

If there’s one thing that’s been particularly surprising about the kerfuffle surrounding a new Star Wars trilogy starting in 2015, it’s been the excitement surrounding the idea that said new trilogy would include appearances by Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher and Harrison Ford, reprising their roles as the franchise’s original core cast.

It’s not that Ford, Fisher or Hamill would be interested in appearing; with the exception of Ford, their careers have been as such that this would be a step back towards the mainstream spotlight that they may not have been expecting otherwise, after all (Ford, too, could fall into that category; it’s not like Morning Glory was such a massive smash). Instead, it’s the wholehearted embrace of the idea by fans that seems somewhat unexpected.

I mean, sure; there’s definitely the nostalgia aspect that appeals, I understand that. Getting the team back together is one of those things that always rings bells for those who grew up with the original movies; there’s a romance to that idea, a sense of it being a “true” Star Wars in the sense that the prequel movies and Clone Wars weren’t. It’s not just offering a return to familiar worlds and concepts – like the prequels – but literally offering familiar faces to underscore the appeal to those who want the same Star Wars that they grew up with. Theoretically, the prequels did that too by re-using characters like Darth Vader, Yoda, C3-PO, R2-D2 and Chewbacca, but none of those characters were actually human, and so the “familiar face” thing seems… weird and not-quite-right when you’re talking about masks (Sure, there was the Emperor, but he was only in Return of The Jedi…).

And I understand, too, that the new movies feed the “But what happened next?” impulse, too, in a way that the prequels couldn’t. That, perhaps, may be the best argument for them – that anything could happen in them, and they weren’t headed towards a place we were all familiar with, one of the many things that robbed the prequels of any sense of urgency. But this, in a way, also explains the danger of the follow-ups, as well: Whatever “happens next” is unlikely to live up to the story that fans (who haven’t read the novels or comics, I guess) have built up in their heads over the last three decades, and seem like a disappointment as a result.

That’s the thing: Although it seems like a good idea, actually watching a sixty-plus year-old Han Solo, Leia Organa Skywalker Solo (Seriously, I’m guessing. Is that her name by the time this’ll take place?) and Luke Skywalker just seems like the kind of thing that is going to not live up to fans’ expectations. I mean, does anyone actually want to see these characters being either (a) older patriarchal/matriarchal figures in the background, or (b) active but failing to live up to the way we remember them from decades earlier…? The temptation for fans, I think, is that seeing the three actors and characters return would mean “more of the same,” but that’s just not possible… and the alternatives that remain don’t seem particularly exciting or worthwhile, either.

Not only that, but am I the only person who finds themselves nervous over the idea of the characters being active participants in a story centered around their offspring, as the new movies are rumored to be? It’s one thing to have the family connection in some distant way – Something that the expanded universe’s Star Wars: Legacy exploits very well, I think – but having our central characters be the kids of the original cast and keeping that original cast in the story as well is, at best, a risky move and at worst a reductive one that either undermines the new characters (Hey, our favorites are still here!) or minimizes the appeal of the old characters by making them ineffectual and unnecessary when compared with the new.

I could be alone in worrying about all of this, and not trusting the powers that be at Lucasfilm and Disney to work out some way to satisfy all audiences and expectations that come with the idea of bringing back the original cast. In fact, looking at the excitement online, it feels as if I am… But I can’t shake the feeling that this is one of those things that is far, far better in theory than in practice. Guess we’ll find out in 2015…

  • ZBaksh386

    I don’t but that’s cause  I rather see the movies be self contained and set in a time period not that connected to the other two trilogies.

    I rather see Star wars legacy or knights of the republic.

  • Lyle

    I’m not sure I am obsessed with the original cast being there, per se, but, let’s face it, there were really no interesting characters created in the last three Star Wars movies. Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, and Princess Leia are iconic, whereas Qui-Gon Jinn, Jar Jar Binks, and… basically every other new character they created… not so much. Through those movies, I wished they had picked a young actor to play Han Solo as some young hoodlum trying to survive in this world, and it did not matter if Harrison Ford played him, just to see a familiar face beyond C3PO and R2D2. All I ask is that whatever characters they create for this next Star Wars, just make them characters I care about. I would assume they would be the children of Han and Leia and Luke and whatever girl he ended up hooking up with, so, yes, I could see the three of them appearing as parents to the next generation of heroes. In the end, just make characters I care about.

  • Jim H.

    ” It’s not that Ford, Fisher or Hamill would be interested in appearing;”

    At this point, all three of them have said they’d be interested in appearing. In fact, they all said it days ago now. Would even a little research kill you?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tina-Mcpherson/100000747291974 Tina Mcpherson

    You have to have Hamill return the others can go fly a kite. Ford has wanted to kill Han solo since the first movie, he has always begged Lucas to kill off the character. I would. Leia is a Jedi master now, she could sit on the new orders council with Luke, and you could have all manner of younger actors in their to attract the teeny crowd. even a new story after Luke rebuilds the order then you can make any story you like with most of the old cast of twilight if you like. you just have to have a mark Hamill in their somewhere.

  • MegaGearMax

    Luke and company had 30 years to get iconic. Anakin, Obi-Wan, Amidala, Darth Maul and General Grievious might be iconic when that new generation of prequel/Clone Wars fans grows to reach the age of the original series’ fans.

  • Bass Guitar Hero

    It’s called continuity, but it can also be a passing of a torch to see the original characters pass on their legacy to a bunch of new characters.

  • Akai Koru

    I am still of the opinion that if the current fanbois who seek to denigrate Lucas every chance they get, had been kids when the new movies came out they would have loved them. It’s tough to grow up in the 70′s or 80′s then wait from 1984-1999 for a new movie. After having paid taxes, went to college, worked, gained and lost love etc.. to look at any new incarnation of something you love with the same enthusiasm and longing that the originals brought us as toddlers-preteens. 

    For me Episode II’s love story was hokey but it’s the only prequel which falls under ROTJ in my book.

    As far as George goes, I hope he stays close and engaged in it. He is the master of this realm, and one of my personal heroes in life. His ingenuity, his imagination, his talent, and his good will are all exemplary. His gift to my life (I was born in 75) has been extreme, and no amount of disagreement about a film he makes could ever make me say the horrible things others do about him. Star Wars, Indiana Jones, ILM, Pixar, Skywalker Sound, THX. All from Lucas.

    Thanks George!

  • TiredJay

     It’s a typo.  The only reading that makes sense in the paragraph is “wouldn’t be interested”

  • Ollie By Golly

    Luke, Han and Leia bacame iconic within a few months of “Star Wars” hitting the theatres.

  • Devilzadvokit666

    Exactly- all three have stated that they would be more than happy to reprise their roles in the new film. The bias present in this article is the reason why I cannot take him serious, andI doubt I’ll read any more articles from him on any topic. Me? I’ll at the very least wait until I see a trailer for Episode VII before I start douching it out at Lucas and Disney. Until then, I’m still as happy as a kid on christmas.

  • Dean_Winchester

    Luke Skywaker at 60 years old would still be a bad ass Jedi.  No one is going to believe this man is a bad ass Jedi: http://tinyurl.com/bczq8zg
     The time has passed.  Had they done this 20 years ago maybe, but its too late.  They will either recast the roles, or it will be set far enough in the future that these characters will be dead.

  • parkay301

    haha….yeah, i was thinking the same thing. what is this author talking about. all of the actors just recently said they’d be interested in reprising their roles. in other news, all of the directors they’ve asked so far did not want to take on this project.

  • Whoiseyevan

    We’ve already seen both “younger” and”older” versions of Obi-wan, Anakin and Yoda. Even though the first two were played by different actors, I wasn’t disappointed.

  • Shearns2

     It’s Graeme McMillan, so, uh, yes.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Casey/623640256 Richard Casey

    The idea that people are obsessed with the original actors appearing isn’t true. Would it be cool to see where Luke, Leia and Han wound up after Jedi, but I don’t want an entire film about it. Seeing Luke teaching at the Jedi Academy, Leia doing her political thing and Han being a father would be nice, and it’d be EASY to work it into the script without feeling like they’d crowbarred it in for the sake of doing. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/bonzulac Paul Bonzulac

    I definitely want to see the return of Luke: at the end of RotJ, he had the task of rebuilding the Jedi order.  I’d like to see a reinvented one where the Jedi aren’t a bunch of loveless, celibate assholes.

  • Shane

    I think that it’s important to remember that these movies are going to be directed to as broad an audience as possible. Lot’s of people love Star Wars without being into the minutiae that some fans love. That being said Star Wars has an enormous built in fan base that adores the detail and history so it will have to work on both levels.

  • sandwich eater

    I only hope that Star Wars will handle the passing of the torch from old cast to new better than Star Trek: Generations and Star Trek 10.

  • mars

    I want to see Leia deal with Vader as her father and both find out about their mother which was a black hole in the OT. The Truce at Bakura and The Dark Nest Trilogy were alright but I want to see this stuff on screen

  • mars

     Episode 1 Amidala is iconic. Just by the impact of the visual.

  • http://twitter.com/ericscroggs Eric Scroggs

    I like how the article has the WORST POSSIBLE PICTURES for all three. lol

  • http://twitter.com/ToddCMatthy Todd Matthy

    We want to see them because we associate those characters with those actors. Those actors WERE those characters. Why do we refer to Arnold’s character in Schwartzengger movies as “Arnold”?

    Plus, after seeing X3 and previews for the new Tron (haven’t seen the movie) we have the ability to de-age actors through special effects. So, why not?

  • http://twitter.com/ToddCMatthy Todd Matthy

    I’ll give you that one about Amidala, it gave her something extra other then being Luke and Leia’s mother.

  • http://twitter.com/ToddCMatthy Todd Matthy

    You could argue Mace Windu, but mostly because he’s played by Samuel Jackson. I’d say Jar Jar had become iconic in his own way…as an example of what NOT to do.

    I would also say seeing the old characters pass the torch to the next generation is an endorsement of the new characters. The prequels didn’t have that luxury. 

  • Dean_Winchester

    One major difference. Alec Guinness and Ewan Mcgregor were/are amazing actors.  On the other hand there is a reason Mark Hamill never stared in a a single noteworthy film after Star Wars.

  • bluebottle

    I’m not a fan of the prequels, by any stretch of the imagination. But they do now set a precedent, as Obi Wan and Annakin are in all 6 (albeit played by different actors).  So, it would be keeping with tradition to have characters from the middle trilogy carry over to the next.

  • Stainedglassscarlet

    Shut up Graeme, you really are an idiot. 

  • eChuta!

    I’m not sure I see the problem; it just requires a little thought in how to approach these characters thirty years later:

    Fisher easily can play a Mon Mothma type that lays down the major “Empire” plot beat of the movie (just like in Return of the Jedi), Hamill is the Yoda figure who trains the new folks Episode VII is sure to bring along (and perhaps has to save them at the end of VII with a grand gesture; the easy route here could be to hobble Luke from helping in the action sequences by writing in a line about injuries he sustained over the years, although the Yoda parallels may be a little too strong there), and Ford could go a number of ways, not the least of which is a sort of “Heat” action/subterfuge sub-plot where he could match wits against someone still in the smuggling business . . .like another elder statesman of the screen . . .perhaps Jeremy Irons? It’s not like Harrison Ford can’t act, y’ know?

    Cast Irons as a Talon Karrde type . . . he could be in cahoots with what’s left of the Empire, and there’s your basic plot set-up. Hell, maybe they borrow C’boath and Thrawn from the Zahn books for the Empire / big “dark jedi” baddies. Ian McKellen could get his dork on again as C’boath . . .how cool would *that* be?

    For dramatic interest, and to make Ford happy, you could even have Solo die at the end of Episode VII to give the new characters (especially if one is a Solo offspring) something to grab onto for Episode VIII.

    There are many ways things could go wrong . . .but, I know this: the end of Toy Story 3 was more powerful to me than a great many other “adult” movies claim to be. Yes, the prequels were “meh”, but I think this could be something great if it’s handled correctly. After all, the Mouse managed to do Marvel justice, right?

    I get where the article is coming from . . .but think about the people in these six films, and the common threads. Fisher, Hamill and Ford (among others) deserve the chance to help frame these new films.

    I’m hard pressed to argue against twenty minutes or half an hour of this new film helping to tie up what we’ve all been hoping for since getting out of the theaters in 1983. :)

  • Kyle

    There are only 20 years separating the first two trilogies, wouldn’t it be strange if the next trilogy was set with centuries dividing it from the other films in the franchise?

  • Kyle

    I would argue that Darth Maul, Qui Gon Jinn, Queen Amadala, and (love him or hate him) Jar Jar Binks are all iconic in their own way, in that they represent things.  It may just be that you don’t like what they represent.

  • Alex

    I always heard that Luke would show up in Episode 9. I heard this a long time ago. That would make sense, because they would probably be Jedi and he would of been the one who restarted the Jedi order. Sure, he doesn’t look young anymore, but it’s not like Alec Guiness was 30 when he played Obi-Wan.  I don’t see how the other two would have a big role in it.

  • Averyscratch

    Can you write a sentence without using the word “I,” you narcissistic hack?

  • Mikejecho3

    There has certainly been a lot of sentimentality to the “original characters” but only due to time, like Ollie said, these characters were instantly icons. 

  • W4361

    I’m pretty sure they’ll the original cast will get the job. Personally I’m all for a recast. If Star Trek can do so can Star Wars. That way you can continue the adventures of Luke,Han, and Leia only a few years after ROTJ. You can watch Luke search for force gifted people like himself. You could watch Leia come to terms with Anakin being her father, being trained as a Jedi, or having the kids. Han could still be of some use, and Boba could be resurrected to continue their feud. So many more possibilites. Still I’m sure they’ll go with the geriatrics. Which I’m not totally against, but I just worry about how they’ll be used. I believe they’ll have bigger roles than cameos, how can they not? People will expect these old character to actually be apart of the plot, not just little nostalgic touches. And what of the new characters? Any new hero’s, sons or dauthers, or whatever have to be spot on. If not then they’ll be overshadowed by the Big 3 and friends. Which then causes the audience to be pissed that they were stuck with these uninteresting people, while the original hero’s did next to nothing. Disaster. Not to mention the amount of exposistion that the audience will have to sit through just so they can be up to date over what has happened over the last 40 years. Michael Arndt has a job on his hands.

  • Demoncat4

    not to mention  star wars purisists would be up in arms if the new trilogy did not include some mention of han lei and luke even as older parental figures. like if they ever do the thrawn saga. plus disney knows if they want the new star wars films to work they have to at least have a nod to the ones that started it all including the very first star wars actors even as in a camo

  • Dick Grayson

    Jar Jar Binks is iconic… but for all of the wrong reasons…

  • your mom wants to see Luke

    this is the dumbest article I’ve ever read on this site. if you don’t want to see the three of them, fine, but you honestly don’t understand why Starwars fans wanna see them?

    the same reason Bucky-Cap, Dick Grayson batman, Ben Riley, Azreal batman, any replacement fantastic four member, and so many more examples don’t work. people are interested in characters.

    people like Luke, Leia and Han. wanna see what happens a hundred years later in a galaxy far far away, just because characters they like “existed” there a century ago.

    Disney didn’t pay 4billion dollars in order to have the trademark for light-sabers. they want to continue the legacy of Starwars.

    personally i hope for it to be set 20-30 years later, and luke is in charge of the jedi academy he formed in between trilogies, and have wanted that since the first time a saw rotj. i don’t really care if Leia and Han are there, but once again:

    how can you not understand why people would want this? you have to ask that question?

    great photo selection by the way. right off the bat i thought “wow they DO look bad.” (like you wanted me to think).  but then that thought continued: “dang it! I thought he was gonna list some cool things that we may want to show up in the next trilogy, but nope. Hes a buffoon, trying to use these haggard pics to prove his point. lets read this stupid crap”(not what you wanted me to think)

  • Dick Grayson

    I am sooo torn about this.  There is a part of me that wants to see the original core return, but I want to see Luke become the BA Jedi Knight and Master that we read about in the books.  I don’t look at Mark Hamill and think “action star”

  • MegaGearMax

    Alec Guiness, Christopher Lee, Ian McDiarmid and arguably the 10 years younger at the time Liam Neeson and Samuel L. Jackson proved that older Jedi/Sith can still be pretty badass.

  • W4361

    Ummm I’d say a popular majority loved Bucky as Cap and Dick as Batman. So yes it doesn’t work most of the time, but it does work some of the time.

  • Orphan

    I guess that assumption of yours holds true because you say it does.Glad to see you don’t lack confidence.

  • Orphan

    It’s a freaking movie.As long as it rocks who cares what they do with it.One problem with this is Disney sucks and there is no way they will ever pull anything off that is remotely worthwhile.And Lucas is laughing all the way to the bank.

  • 001

    Once they get some good trainers they’ll be good to go. I’ve seen more recent photos of Fisher and she looks MUCH better already. The force is with them. Hopefully they get more than just cameos. This is like the return of a classic rock band….And speaking of music…we get Williams. I also hope they bring back Joe Johnston to supervise the art department. What more could we want? Oh yeah…bring back Boba too.

  • Andy E. Nystrom

    Lenoard Nimoy was in his late 1970s when he appeared in the 2009 Star Trek movie and while his role was smaller than the new cast it wasn’t exactly a mere cameo either.  With a bit of imagination it can be easy enough to give them supporting roles.  Heck, lots of 60-year-olds are pretty spry (witness Timothy Dalton in Hot Fuzz); maybe you can start with a young crew, but have them defeated. Then cut to Luke, Han, and Leia sighing and deciding to show the young people how it’s done.

  • ZBaksh386

    not really, Star wars jumps around time periods and if you can accept the 20 year jump, you can accept this.

  • Mike Liggett

    Reminiscing like this is why movies suck these days.

  • Dick Grayson

    Did you not like Avengers?  Because they kind of own Marvel now…

  • beane2099

    Obi Wan and Yoda were how old in the original trilogy? And yet these characters were pretty damn important to that story.  For Luke and Leia it makes total sense for them to be involved if the story involves Jedi.  And since Han Solo and Leia are a pair, it makes sense for him to be there too.  Now if they throw EVERYONE in it’ll be a little much, I agree (I could do with some Lando though, I’m not gonna lie about that one).  But Luke and Leia as older mentors to the newbiles ain’t far off the mark.

  • darthtigris

    Luke must me be in it, but I wouldn’t mind the others to a reasonable degree.

    I agree with others, though, that this is a pretty awful ‘editorial’.

  • 72land

    Honestly, I don’t have a problem with something bordering on cameos by the originals. Even a plot point that ends up in Solo being killed off if done correctly. But I certainly can’t imagine they would build the sequel around them. They need to pass the torch to a new series of conflicts. Lucas always said the third set would concern a drastic threat to the new republic. The originals would be perfect seasoning, just not the main course.