Quicksilver One of ‘a Handful’ of Marvel Characters Who Could Pop Up at Fox

avengers origins-quicksilver-swMany fans were surprised to learn in spring 2012 that Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch could be used by both Marvel and Fox, a scenario that materialized about a year later with Joss Whedon announcing the siblings’ inclusion in The Avengers: Age of Ultron, and Bryan Singer casting Evan Peters as Pietro Maximoff in X-Men: Days of Future Past.

However, it turns out they’re not the only characters living in that rights “gray area.”

“There are only a handful of characters that occupy that middle ground,” Kevin Feige, Marvel Studios’ president of production, tells the New York Daily News. “Iron Man is not going to show up over there and Magneto is not going to show up over here. But there are a few gray points even after many years of negotiations … and that only happens with a character like Quicksilver, who has been a part of the X-Men, the son of Magneto in those comics, but also a primary Avenger. The characters (on the screen) are going to be very different. Other than their powers, general audiences might not even know — unless they read your article — that the two are related.”

Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, the mutant children of Magneto, have long histories with the Avengers and the X-Men: Although they were introduced in May 1964 as members of their father’s Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, they joined the ranks of the Avengers within a year. It’s difficult to think of other characters who have such deep roots in two separate Marvel franchises — and who might constitute the rest of that “handful.”

Following the casting of Peters in May, a report indicated that Marvel and Fox were in a “legally negotiated stand-off,” with the former prohibited from making reference to mutants or Magneto in the Avengers sequel.

(via ComicBookMovie)

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  • Alex H

    I think at some point Skrulls were mentioned as being another… I imagine that as a whole there are probably more debatable F4/Avengers crossovers than X-men/Avengers one.

  • Joshua Melo

    I hope beast is one of them :D probably not, but I can dream and dream I will!

  • Jim

    Wolverine? He’s used to showing up everywhere anyway :)

  • http://rottenvaginaz.tumblr.com/ Valeria Kementari

    Beast had a strong presence in the Avengers, I can easily see him crossing over

  • J.p. Ducey

    Namor possibly? He first appeared in FF (Owned by Fox) but has roots to the Avengers and Invaders (Marvel Studios)

  • Han Solo

    Please Fox just go away and stop ruining Marvel movies. I’m so happy Disney was able to rip Star Wars out of Fox’s hands.

  • BND

    Namor has been said to belong to Universal.

  • Rollo Tomassi

    Namor preceded the FF by two decades. His 1st appearance was Marvel Comics in 1939. The FF didn’t show up until 1961.

  • Dave

    what’s the threshold for being allowed in the Avengers license?

    If it’s not super high or complicated, Rogue is an easy catch since she got her powers in the Avengers and ties in significantly with Ms./Captain Marvel and would be an excellent first-third villain if that movie ever is made.

    If we’re on the other side and are looking at bad guys, Kang, Doom, Norman Osborne, and I don’t know if the FF rights get Doom and Kang exclusively or not, same goes with Osborne and Spider-Man. Seems they all ended up as iconic Avengers foes at some point so why not?

  • Steve McMullan

    Agreed.

  • J.p. Ducey

    I know, his first appearance was in Marvel Comics #1 with John Hammond the Original Human Torch. He’s actually Marvel’s first Super Hero. I misspoke. What I was trying to say is that his first Silver AGE appearance was in FF #4

  • Chuck777

    Fox was not the reason Star Wars was terrible. Mr. Lucas did that all by himself.

    If Fox looses the X-Men, then we’ll just see Wolverine popping up in Avengers movies and the X-Men being put to the side. Disney isn’t going to overhaul everything they are doing to accommodate the X-Men.

  • Chuck777

    He has a strong pedigree with Avengers and the X-Men, he could easily be one of the characters in the middle.

  • Chuck777

    The name “Human Torch” is probably up for grabs but obviously not dealing with the same character.

    Ms. Marvel is probably in the middle as she spent time with the X-Men as Binary.

    Beast, Wolverine and Storm were all Avengers, although the latter two’s induction into the Avengers was well past the time when Marvel and Fox signed their contract.

    Justice is a mutant, so depending on how the contract was worded, he could be in Fox’s control but he’s also an Avenger, so it could go both ways. Firestar is the same way.

    Daken was created in 2007, so he could very well be in Marvel’s control.

    Count Nefaria fought the X-Men before… Though I doubt Fox would ever use him.

  • Joshua Melo

    I think Kang is with Marvel, at least I hope so. I’m willing to bet that after Thanos we will get a new trilogy of Avengers movies with Kang as the mastermind. What other big bads can they pull for Avengers after Thanos?

  • demoncat_4

    think the kingpin is on that list since he started out as spider man bad guy. plus also black panther and the inhumans could show up for a fantastic four flick and black panther in the avengers. and maybe even kang.

  • the snap

    IF Torch is a possible one then they really should make a Human Torch vs Namor film set in the 40s with a Cap cameo.

  • demoncat_4

    miss marvel think she works mostly due to rogue stealing her powers and she was binery. plus firestar and justice are like quicksilver and scarlet witch with use. not to mention ronan the acuser for the fantastic four . beast maybe though doubtful.

  • Thanos

    The Watcher, Sandman, King Pin, Beast, Skrulls, Shi’Ar, Kang/Immortus/Ramma Tut

  • Sentry616

    SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!

  • http://www.living-silver.com Living Silver

    Completely agree. For some strange reason, many X-Men fans seem to think that Disney WANTS the X-Men franchise. Iron Man just slaughtered Wolverine’s ass all over the Box-Office. Even if Disney got the rights for the X-Men back, they’re not going to invest in the property. They have too many other things going for them at the moment: X-Men will become back-burner and it will be another decade or two before we see another x-film.

    I’d rather FOX just watch and learn from Marvel: hopefully they’ve pulled their head out of their heads and put together something solid with Days of Future Past.

  • http://www.living-silver.com Living Silver

    Or a Torch vs. Namor battle flashback scene during a Cap movie (much more likely).

  • the Dagman

    Another possibility is the Human Torch. The original Jim Hammond android version was spotted as a display at the World’s Fair in Captain America: The First Avenger put out by Disney/Marvel Studios. While the later Johnny Storm version of the character is a member of the Fantastic Four, which has a reboot movie on the way from Fox.

  • Derek Metaltron

    I’d love to know where Captain Britain’s rights lie given his X-Men and Avenger ties. I’ve always thought that if Fox own him he’d be their answer to Thor and Captain America in one.

  • DaMak

    DOFP looks crappy so i doubt it.

  • Tommy Rankin

    Well besides Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch other mutant characters that could be included in that handful are probably Firestar and Justice, Beast and maybe Rogue, Wolverine and Storm though I doubt that.

    Non-mutant characters that I can think of include Ms/Captain Marvel, Kingpin who has been an enemy of both Daredevil and Spidey and aliens like Skrulls and Kree that have fought agains both FF and Avengers multiple times. Captain Britain is tough one too and I guess Inhumans are with Marvel since Marvel is trying to replace the X-Men and mutants with them in the comics?

  • EVH

    You have GOT to be kidding? push aside your #1 franchise (or 1-a) The Avengers didnt become relevant until Marvel decided to give them the push they needed and deserved back when Bendis came on board.

    Marvel owes the X-Men the Marvel Studios treatment, we might finally get a truer interpretation of The Dark Phoenix saga and other great X-Men storylines.

  • Convoy

    Some people have mentioned Justice, but remember, Justice is a mutant but he hasn’t really been associated with the X-Men. He’s always associated with either the New Warriors, Avengers, or somewhere else in the Marvel universe. Also, an alternate future version of himself is the leader of The Guardians of the Galaxy.

  • http://www.living-silver.com Living Silver

    Marvel chose to make the Avengers popular OVER the X-Men. They took all of the most popular X-Men and made them Avengers (along with Spider-Man and the Hulk). They did this specifically to make the Avengers the #1 franchise. During Avengers vs. X-Men, Marvel had the Avengers as the stronger team, the “good guys” and had the most popular X-Men fight on the Avenger’s side.

    Make no mistake: the higher-ups at Marvel have no love for the X-Men. It’s a fantasy (at least for now) that Marvel will give the X-Men the “Marvel Studios treatment”.

    Now if Jim Lee were co-EIC of Marvel Comics instead of co-EIC of DC, it would be a different story. Lee loves the X-Men. But until that happens, our best bet at x-fans is to hope for FOX to step their game up.

  • Kyle Rayner

    Hulk was an original Avenger.The only X-Man (currently) that really plays on both sides is Wolverine (and he is on the outs with the Avengers anyways). There aren’t a whole lot of X-Men running around in the Avengers like you are making them out to be. However, just about every hero in the Marvel Universe is either an Avenger or an X-Man which bothers me.

  • Kyle Rayner

    Annihilus would be awesome.

  • Chuck777

    Why do you think Marvel decided to suddenly care about the Avengers, after letting them languish for decades?

    Marvel wanted to make movies based on their properties. Marvel had sold the movie rights off all of their best properties to other companies. What did Marvel have left? The Avengers.

    Knowing this, Marvel re-rehabilitated the entire line by focusing the majority of their money, talent and creative ideas on the Avengers. It started with Bendis’ New Avengers. Practically 10 years later, the Avengers have ballooned into a billion dollar property.

    Marvel owes a lot to the X-Men but without the movie rights, they will continue to play second fiddle to the Avengers. I say that as a die hard X-Men fan too.

  • Happily LS

    Well we’ve just had about 20 X-men films in the past decade. Maybe it should be another decade before there’s another. God forbid artistic integrity ever be a factor.

  • http://www.living-silver.com Living Silver

    That’s not true: Marvel studios was started because Paramount didn’t want to finance a big-budget Iron Man movie (they felt he was too unknown of a character to spend so much money on). So Marvel did it themselves, and thus their studio was born.

    This all happened after Avengers: Disassembled. Quesada himself has said that he really liked the Avengers characters and wanted to bring them back to prominence.

    Marvel (as a company) has made so many poor decisions regarding the X-Men since the turn of the century that I don’t trust them to do right by the X-Men. The comic industry has a lot of resentment these days for 90′s books, and the X-Men are the epitome of 90′s comics. Google and Microsoft are now copying the formula that Apple used to become so successful: hopefully FOX will do the same with Marvel movies. Other studios ARE capable of making good films.

  • http://www.living-silver.com Living Silver

    You’re right: Hulk was an original Avengers. We can substitute “Daredevil” in my original statement: the point is still the same.
    Off the top of my head: X-Characters who stood with the Avengers during Avs,X: Quicksilver, Wolverine, Beast, Storm, and Ms. Marvel. Not to mention all of the mutants on the team who abandoned the rest of mutant kind.

    And Wolverine is on two different Avengers teams.

    I agree with you though: it bothers me that every hero is affiliated with the Avengers or X-Men. The difference, though, is that almost every X-character originated (or was developed as a character) in an x-book. Most of the Avengers are just well-established popular characters from the rest of the MU and the editors decided that they should just be part of the “team”.

  • http://www.living-silver.com Living Silver

    Aside from 2 Wolverine solos, there have only been 4 X-Men films :/

    Out of all 6 movies, only 2 were awful. First Class was a rebound, and DoFP is looking to be awesome. Neither Iron Man 2 nor Iron Man 3 were fantastic films, but they were both a lot of fun. I’d rather have a “fun” X-Men movie than no X-men movies for a decade, but maybe that’s just me.

  • EVH

    That’s the point: Marvel wanted to make the Avengers relevant, you say the X-franchise has gone downhill yet they’re still 1-a and 1-b with Avengers. But at this point Marvel wants to cash in on EVERY property, that’s why youre seeing movie like Guardians of the Galaxy and then once the Inhumans comics take off you’ll see a movie about them. They’ve got a big sandlot but make no mistake Marvel/Disney want the x-men back, it’ foolish to think otherwise. Same goes for Spider-Man and F4.

  • Chuck777

    You can’t tell me that after the amazing success of Spider-Man, that the higher ups at Marvel didn’t suddenly realize the massive potential that comic book movies could, and do, have. Even if Marvel wasn’t going to option the movies themselves, rehabilitating their major lines just made sound business sense.

    Sure Marvel didn’t have the rights to Iron-Man until 2006 but making that character shine was certainly a valid strategy to help convince New Line to make the film.

  • http://www.living-silver.com Living Silver

    Again, I disagree. Why do you think Marvel just made that deal with Netflix to give them FOUR shows instead of showing the shows on ABC or any of the cable networks they own? It’s because Disney/Marvel has maxed out all of their resources for releasing superhero product. They can’t physically release any more movies/shows than they currently have in the works. Having FOX make X-Men movies allows them to collect royalties from characters that would otherwise be doing nothing.

    Movies like Guardians of the Galaxy are being made because Marvel doesn’t want to get pigeonholed into the “superhero” genre. People will eventually get tired of spandex movies (they already seem to be), so they’re moving their characters into new genres. For example, Winter Soldier is going to be a political thriller, Dark World was a fantasy epic, and GoG will be a sci-fi flick. They’re not using the GoG because they don’t have anything better to use: they’re using them because they think they can make a good product with them.

    Marvel decided to make a Guardians of the Galaxy movie before the new comic took off (which isn’t even that big of a seller, considering the creative team), so don’t expect big Inhumans sales to lead to an Inhumans movie.

  • http://www.living-silver.com Living Silver

    Marvel makes their money from the films whether Sony, FOX, or Paramount makes the film. They have been making changes in the comic lines to promote the films since X-Men first appeared in theaters. What they haven’t done is push one property over another simply because they didn’t own the film rights to that character(s) (as you asserted). Marvel Comics shifted their resources to the Avengers comics simply because the editors in charge at the time liked those characters better.

  • Richard Casey

    REALLY don’t understand why Fox wouldn’t want to work with Marvel, surely having their characters show up in a franchise that made A BILLION DOLLARS would be nothing but good for them.

  • NICK FURY

    Really if you look at Marvel only has room to work The Avengers Affiliated projects on the Big Screen right about now. That’s why I think Daredevil and them are headed to Netflix Because they never would have been made into movies. Its like you got this money making franchise where all things are selling. So why bring in another franchise like X-men they can be huge themselves if Fox would do them right. You got people now wanna loki spin off movie But it will probably come in the form of Thor 3. After the success of The Dark world I wouldn`t be surprise if Marvel is looking at 2016 the earliest for a Thor 3. That right there would push a new franchise back a year or two. Then I would have to say Cap 3 is go be in 2017. So that two of the 4 or 5 phase 3 movie slots taking with Avengers 3 coming in 2018

  • BrianRommel

    Fox actually has the rights to Wolverine the character. Whereas quicksilver only comes with their rights to the xmen. This also why we won’t see spiderman due to Sony owning him.

  • BrianRommel

    fox owns wolverine but not Quicksilver or Scarlet which just the X-men so they can use those characters.

  • Disestablish

    Off the top of my head… Wolverine, Rogue, Havok, Cannonball, Sunspot, Prodigy, and Sunfire are all X-Men actively serving on Avengers teams at present. Beast is not currently an active Avenger, but has been a member since the 70s. Storm is also an Avenger, though inactive since becoming headmistress at the Jean Grey School. Captain Britain, Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, and Firestar all started out in X-Men comics before becoming Avengers members. Carol Danvers and Black Knight both started out as Avengers before becoming closely associated with the X-Men. Loa, X-23, Wiz-Kid, and Hollow were students at Xavier’s school but defected to Avengers Academy.