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ABC’s Paul Lee Debriefs ‘Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.’


Paul Lee, ABC’s entertainment president, took some time at the Television Critics Association’s winter press tour to field questions about Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., including the show’s ratings and the previously announced appearance of Jaimie Alexander’s Lady Sif in an upcoming episode.

“It was obviously disappointing that we started with a very high number and it came down,” he said. “It took a little bit of time to find our sea legs, but now the show is really doing well. Creatively, we are loving what we’re seeing for the back nine. We’re doing a lot of work, and I’m really enjoying doing this with Marvel. We can announce that Lady Sif is coming in, in Episode 15. We’re shooting it now, and that’s going to be absolutely integral to that hour of television. And then, there’s going to be this really cool arc to the end of the season. You’re going to find out who the Clairvoyant is, and it’s going to be very, very cool.”

Lee went on to discuss some of the stumbling blocks the series hit in the first half of the season. “It did take us a little bit of time to find our sea legs,” Lee said. “I think the key to us was really starting to work closely with the studios, and really figure out with our showrunners and all the creative brains, how we could have a show that didn’t have Iron Man in it, but did have an incredible amount of the Marvel universe and an incredible amount of the mythology that went through there. We also took a little bit of time to get the balance between a procedural and an arc. I’m so proud of how they’ve now arced out the last nine episodes. But, that’s something that many shows do, as they go through that.”

Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. airs Tuesdays at 8 p.m. ET/PT on ABC.


  • mp_SimonWilliams

    Thank goodness Disney owns the whole shooting match (Marvel and ABC), otherwise this show might have gotten the axe. Network presidents are not known for having the patience to wait for a show to get its “sea legs.” They are lucky.

  • Michael Pavek

    I think this show has great potential and hope that everyone continues to give it a chance.

  • marcus hughes

    AOS previously had pretty good rantings. ep 1-9 were all high enough for the network

  • marcus hughes

    i dont know why people are hating this show with such prejudiced. they are saying its sexist its racist its full of nothing but pretty boys and pretty girls it has no plot/character development and its slow paste. i heard it all including the its not tied in with the MCU cuz it doesnt have hulk. smh these people complaining worry me. they act ignorant. yea i admit its not the best show ever (no show is cuz i see flaws in all of the ones i watch) but its still fun. i do know all shows eventually change. just look at revolution season 1 and season 2. big huge difference. grimm had some bad dilogue for season 1 but now its better

  • Jack Saat

    Hope it gets a season 2!

  • Jack Saat

    Indeed people start crying that the first 4 eps kind of sucked but I think from ep 6 it got better!

  • glantern35

    As far as I can tell they still haven’t found their legs. Boring…..

  • ZeoVGM

    Last week was a great episode though.

  • ZeoVGM

    The ratings have been good throughout the season. Have they gone down? Yes, but they’ve still done well.

  • Dave

    ” did have an incredible amount of the Marvel universe”

    that’s the problem right there – IT DOESN’T!

  • glantern35

    I think “great” is a little generous. Some shows do need a season to find it’s path though. Star Trek: The Next Generation had a few great episodes the first season, but it wasn’t until season 3 that you could count on a great episode every week.

  • Guest

    I am curious as to who is the Clairvoyant. Is it someone we’ve seen on the show, or someone from a Marvel movie? I keep thinking it will be someone along the lines of Red Skull, Armin Zola, or Baron Von Strucker; someone not too distant from the orbit of SHIELD and Captain America…

  • Guest

    They were approved for a season 2 not too deep into this season, I think. The ratings dip hasn’t been so bad to prevent that, and I think it is doing better than all or most of ABC’s other programming.

  • Hypestyles

    The show should start its next season in January, and just have a straight 20-22 episode run.

  • batGRRRl4ever

    We all remember how cruelly Pushing Daisies was axed, w/out a chance to barely get episodes of it’s second season out.

  • batGRRRl4ever

    Agreed, season 3 was a transformative moment for ST: TNG.

  • TuVieja

    Since the first moment, I think that the Clairvoyant is Nick Fury. That would be a very very cool plot twist…He got the tech and the contacts.
    You’re gonna say “If it is Fury, why Centipede doesn’t have the tech to bring back to life?” Easy… If Nick give it to them, he would be discovered, they need to simulate.

    Also, I think that after Winter Soldier (In which SHIELD would be exposed) and Age of Ultron (When SHIELD corruption and inefficience it’s gonna be public) Nick Fury would become a fugitive…or maybe, the world most wanted.

  • bayma

    Two whole paragraphs. I guess storage space was limited?

  • Sade

    This show needs an enema !

  • Tophman

    The show is hit and miss for me but I understand that most shows do have some growing pains before they find their voice. However, I think the main problem of the show (and why so many fans are disappointed in it) is that Marvel teased that it will be a look behind the scenes of the Marvel U (one not covered by the big movies). So naturally folks are expecting to see cameos from unused Marvel heroes like Luke Cage or B- (or even C-list heroes & villains).

    I understand that the Netflix contract nixes the use of Daredevil, Cage, etc., but the Marvel U is so vast that I’m sure they could find someone… come on, I wouldn’t mind a laugh and see the team go up against Batroc the Leaper.

    I guess the problem was that they wanted to introduce us to the team and most of us just wanted to see them deal with wacky & dangerous situations rather than their personal drama.

    Nevertheless, I do see the potential in the show as the current episodes have been getting better and better. I’m looking forward to see where they’ll take it… not to mention who the Clairvoyant is (Madame Web?, Destiny? -doubtful since they are Spidey & X-Men characters so not sure how the Sony & Fox movie rights affect their use… can’t think of anyone else) as well as if we’ll finally find out how Coulson really came back (did they map his brain and stick it into a new cloned body? is he a human consciousness in an LMD? –hopefully we’ll find out soon and not have to wait for season 5 for a reveal).

  • G.roy

    It’s “The Leader” from the second Hulk Movie. The last we saw his head was being mutated by the Gamma rays.

  • O.T.O

    My guess, the clairvoyant is Count Nefaria

  • fuqdisqus

    It can get zero ratings and ABC won’t be dropping the Marvel TV flagship series.

  • O.T.O

    I believe it’s Count Nefaria.. my best guess

  • D

    TBH, i was disappointed with the series, but by episode 12 it was getting really good

  • What a waste

    This show is almost unwatchable. Apart from the two older agents, the cast is wooden and lacking in chemistry or charm, but the scripts are even worse, the show is directionless. Adding mentions to Marvel universe characters wouldn’t make the show any better. Even shows like NCIS: Los Angeles, Hawaii 5-0 have better cast chemistry, season arcs, and case of the week stories.
    At least there’s no longer any argument about which is the worst Whedon show. This wins that prize by a country mile. Only reason it’ll get renewed is because
    of who owns the networks.

  • DaMak

    The Leader is a super genius not someone that can predict the future.

  • demoncat_4

    thanks goodness disney is willing to let agents of shield try and take it time to be the show it can be plus we will not have to wait so long to find out who the clairvoiant is. for any other network shield would be canceled. including at fox

  • De Baisch

    Probably one of Skye’s actual parents.

  • Guest

    To be fair, we don’t know how The Leader would be interpreted.

  • Guest

    My top candidates would be: Red Skull, Armin Zola, The Leader, or Baron Von Strucker.

    We don’t know if the Clairvoyant is really clairvoyant. We know nothing about him/her that can’t be taken back.

  • Guest

    I wouldn’t mind this. We’re overdue to find out what happened to Samuel Sterns.

  • Guest

    That would get a huge “ugh” from me, but that’s definitely a real possibility.

  • Claude AndPam Parish

    Nope. It’s a dog. Unless DIsney/Marvel/ABC is pumping cash into it, the show will go Tim Conway soon.

  • AOS sucks

    AOS suck ass and Arrow rules and that’s the truth. And this is coming from a Marvel fanboy. AOS has been nothing but a disappointment, cancel it now!!!

  • TuVieja

    Mmmmmh… In the episode where they save Coulson, someone says about the Clairvoyant “SHIELD… he sees and end to all of this”… Also they know a lot of details about Coulson life. I think whosever he is, the Clairvoyant or has too many conections (Again, I think it’s Fury) or has something that allows him to know everything or almost everything (e.g: Mind Gem/Stone)

  • Sleekie

    This is the kind of show that will continue to get better the longer
    it is on the air. More characters will get introduced. More in
    general will happen. Remember how the second X-Men, Spider-Man, and
    Thor movies were so much better than the first? That’s what will happen
    with the second season of MAOS.

    It may not find it’s groove this season, but it will get there, and
    you’ll be glad you stuck with it. It would be a waste for this show to
    get cancelled before it reaches its potential.

    Please don’t give up on it.