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J.J. Abrams says it’s time for gay ‘Star Wars’ characters

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Representation in media is a matter of great importance across galaxies near and far, far away.

Director J.J. Abrams brought the “Star Wars” universe some balance with “The Force Awakens,” when he cast a woman and men of Nigerian and Guatemalan descent as the leads in the new generation of the Lucasfilm mythos, breaking the trappings of a genre that often trains its focus on the adventures of white males, at the expense of others. Now, Abrams thinks “Star Wars” is ready to break its next barrier, and that it’s time a gay character be introduced to the universe.

Rey, Finn and Poe may evidence progress in pop-culture sci-fi, but Abrams sees work yet to be done. “When I talk about inclusivity, it’s not excluding gay characters, it’s about inclusivity,” the “10 Cloverfield Lane” producer remarked Thursday while addressing press at the the US-Ireland Alliance Oscar Wilde Awards, according to EW. “To me, the fun of ‘Star Wars’ is exploring the possibilities, so it seems insanely narrow-minded to say that there wouldn’t be a homosexual character in that world.”

Abrams will serve as executive producer on Episodes VIII and IX, with Rian Johnson and Colin Trevorrow directing, respectively, and should have significant say over how the epic unfolds, and who sees its spotlight.

For all the media chatter around supposed “controversies,” like the notion that there was anything at all controversial about a black Stormtrooper in a universe where a man of color with a gambling habit freely rose to a position of political power in a city among the clouds, the countless records broken by the blockbuster confirmed that fans will turn out in droves to support projects that value inclusion.

Besides, oppression is the tool of the Empire and First Order, so it only seems right that the Rebellion and the Resistance would celebrate social, romantic and civil freedoms. And what is the saga if not a celebration of the strength of non-traditional families? Maybe those normative Solos couldn’t make it work, but the strongest life-partnership of all seven episodes, the one that has stuck it out through the most, is probably that pair of droids.

Comments

  • Mark A. Lester

    I’d have to say that the most powerful relationship of all was between Han Solo and Chewbacca. Not a romantic one, but a very powerful one.

  • jdb1972

    Dear God, can we just tell an interesting adventure story that makes some sort of sense without constantly inserting political statements into it willy-nilly?

    People liked Star Wars because it was a cool sci-fi action adventure about good guys vs. bad guys. People disliked the prequels because they became windy exposition on midichlorians, trade politics, really stilted “romantic” scenes, and no compelling motive for the plot twist everyone knew was coming before the 3 films were even written. People will forget Abrams’ Star Wars movie because it was the flimsiest of stories with SJW overtones starring a cast of characters with depth measurable in millimeters focused around a Mary Sue – whose actual identity we still don’t know.

    Hopefully Rian Johnson can make something fun in the next one.

  • Slazenger 7

    Fucking idiot.

  • goodfellow_puck

    You know what’s in “interesting adventure stor[ies[“? Awesome and interesting people. You know who are people? Black people, Latin people, WOMEN, gay, trans, disabled…etc. These people just existing in a UNIVERSE of aliens is NOT a political statement within the story. It’s a story WITH REGULAR PEOPLE IN IT.

    It can be a “political statement” outside of the story, as in “WOW, we actually decided to make a scifi action movie with a girl NOT in a catsuit as a lead!” or “HEY, there’s more for POC to do than just be supporting cast, cause they certainly have adventures they are the leads of, duh!” Which tbh is sad as fuck that that has to be political at all b/c we should ALREADY HAVE THIS.

    Also, “Mary Sue”? Um. You mean like LUKE SKYWALKER from George LUCAS. Okaaaaaaaaaaay, man. LMAO.

  • goodfellow_puck

    This is going to make the FinnxPoe shippers absolutely feverish.

    I fully support this. Please make this a thing, JJ. I’ll even forgive you for all the lens flare in Trek. I don’t think I’ve ever wanted something so much for a movie franchise. Normally idgaf, but that would be so awesome.

  • Robert

    Are you as stupid as you sound?

  • Jp

    Why is including gays more important than Asians, latinos, etc..? I guess it depends on how political a group is?

  • disqus_8uTkp82LAz

    Shut up, you idiot.

  • Narmatonia

    Look, you obviously don’t like Star Wars (at least not the prequels or Force Awakens), but do you really need to go out of your way to criticise them and try to ruin it for those who do like them?
    Any by the way, he’s just talking about a homosexual character, it’s not gonna be a massive bloody plotpoint!

  • Narmatonia

    Just so you know, Oscar Isaac (Poe) is part-Guatemalan part-Cuban so…
    And you can hardly expect every movie to contain characters of every single ethnicity and creed.

  • SHRE03

    THE GREATEST STORY EVER TOLD HAS BEEN OFFICIALLY RUINED…

  • mel

    How was Luke a Mary Sue? He got rekt by everyone. Even that yeti in ep5 rekt him.

  • Let’sBeFriends

    Translation:
    “Dear God, can we just tell an interesting adventure story that reflects absolutely nothing about modern society and the real world? I like to pretend that nothing outside of my very white and straight spectrum doesn’t exist and I’d like to see that reflected on the big screen, lest I call anyone who dares to prove otherwise a SJW.

    People liked Star Wars because it was a cool sci-fi action adventure about good guys vs. bad guys. And we all know women, black people and gay people can’t be either of those things and have no general place in science fiction. They don’t even have a place in my reality lol!”

  • Derek Metaltron

    By all means go and have gay original established characters, just don’t take another interesting bromance in fiction like Finn and Poe and ruin it because Tumbler demands it so.

  • JT

    SJWs clearly have more in common with the Empire and the First Order than the Rebellion and the Resistance.

  • jdb1972

    Thanks for sharing your self-opinion.

  • kjkhiii

    C3-po is gay. Abrams is a complete d-bag.

  • Jhuuyg

    and the National Socialist party in Germany.

  • jdb1972

    Awesome and interesting people? Great! Making a character have one particular skin color, gender, etc. doesn’t make a character more interesting. You know what makes a character interesting? He/she does interesting things in an interesting way that makes some sort of sense.

    What do we call someone who thinks being part of a certain demographic makes someone inherently better? Oh, yeah: A bigot.

    “Hey, let’s tell a Star Wars story about [demographic]” is an idiotic idea without merit. “Hey, let’s tell an awesome story with [character] who does [awesome stuff]. And, oh, yeah, they happen to be [demographic]” may have merit, if the storyteller delivers.

    As far as Luke as “Mary Sue,” that would be the same Luke who’s such a badass that he looks into the lightsaber and then gets beat by a droid in a fight? You might want to find out what the term “Mary Sue” means.

    Hint: If Luke had been able to fly every starship better than anyone else despite never piloting anything in his life, repair it better than anyone else, master the Force enough to pull off the Jedi Mind Trick without ever seeing it done, completely dismantle Vader with a lightsaber he had never wielded, etc. – then you might have a point. If you watch ANH again, note the lengths Lucas went to to avoid such.

  • jdb1972

    Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit, I take it?

    I’m sure the local library offers classes that can help.

  • jdb1972

    Who’s the more foolish…the fool or the fool who replies to him?

    In this case, it would be the latter, thanks. Great question!

  • jdb1972

    So, you’re criticizing something someone wrote for criticizing… something someone said? And saying they were wrong to do so, but you aren’t? There’s this thing called “consistency”…

    And, just in case you weren’t aware, can you count the number of character romantic relationships depicted in the entirety of the first 6 movies? And how many of those weren’t central to the plot? The films handle romance rarely and in a fairly shallow and juvenile manner, which is typical of action-adventure.

  • jdb1972

    Guatemala and Cuba are planets? Who knew?

  • Patricia Honrado

    Disney using Star Wars to push an evil agenda designed to corrupt right thinking, calling good evil and evil good; to corrupt something that never had any need before for a useless political agenda shoved done peoples throats in order to tell a fun and exciting story? Whodathunkit?

  • Darganon

    Is that the movie with the kid who had never been off planet who then discovers he has magical powers but his teacher dies before he really learns how to use them but on his first time flying a fighter for the rebels is able to use these powers to blow up the bad guys’ ultimate planet destroying weapon and become the big hero…on his first day as a pilot?

  • Ashen

    I’m 100% behind having gay characters and/or relationships in the SW universe. It doesn’t even need to be a big spotlight aspect of the series; Doctor Who has been quietly, naturally including same-sex relationships, bi, gay, and omnisexual characters for years.

  • Ashen

    Thank you for this, you beautiful soul. I can’t understand ignorant, shallow turds like jdb “Jesus, Don’t Breed” 1972. *high five*

  • Ashen

    Shhh shhh shhh. The grown ups are talking, pumpkin.

  • modok baby

    I love how the “actually it’s bigotry to even notice or care about race/gender/orientation at all!” logic seems to only be used by people who happen to be super opposed to diverse representation for whatever reason. Huh.

    Look, it’s ok for some people to want representation in pop culture, and to talk about that and be conscious of it. It’s OK if that’s not a priority for you, but just because it’s something other people are interested in doesn’t mean you have to get defensive about enjoying things with mostly straight, white, male casts- we all like Star Wars too, that’s why we’re here!

    But there’s nothing inherently straight/white/male about it; it was just made at a time when creating a character without a specific race or gender in mind almost always gravitated back to those defaults. Really not a lot has changed, it’s just that now more people are being conscious of that homogeneity and trying to avoid those internalized tendencies. And like it or not, that’s what it takes– I think someday we’ll regularly have stories with all types of characters coming from all types of backgrounds, but until that actually does come about naturally on a regular basis with the kind of race/gender blindness you speak of, especially in our most populist, far-reaching stories like Star Wars, it’s just going to take a while longer of people actively remembering to keep an open mind.

    If you imagine that *maybe* our ideas of what “normal” characters are like *might* naturally gravitate towards straight/white/male, that doesn’t mean everyone is a terrible racist, it just means that’s what normal in our media has mostly looked like since we were born, and since the people who inspired that media were born, and what do you know, white men founded the USA, etc. It doesn’t mean all those stories are bad… left largely to their own devices, white men have done some pretty awesome stuff! (Hello, almost all the good comics and movies we’ve grown up with! And most of the bad and average ones too.) But, just imagine the talent pool and range of characters being more open to everyone! That’s all anyone is hoping for. It’s totally ok if you haven’t ever wished to see more kinds of people doing more kinds of fictional things, I just can’t imagine why anyone would object to it.

  • FreeJack

    And let me guess…a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, people were TOTALLY enlightened and homosexuality was totally normal and fully accepted by everyone in the universe, with everyone treating it as totally normal. Right? Because I guarantee you that there won’t be anything at all conflicted or controversial about a gay character in this universe, even though you’ve got a fascist organization like the First Order blowing up entire planets. So it’ll probably be a totally uninteresting inclusion that brings nothing of real value to the film series. Except, I guess, to give gay people the warm and fuzzies, and for the social justice warriors to proclaim a victory on their ten reader blogs.

  • kightysde

    Good, I can feel your anger. I am defenseless. Take your weapon. Strike me down with all of your hatred and your journey towards the gay-side will be complete!

  • ghUggs

    Isn’t the “rule of two” just a euphemism for a gay predatory relationship?

  • Byron

    If the gay characters serve the story, cool. Beyond that, who care beside twenty people on tumblr and twitter ?

  • jdb1972

    The key word in your first paragraph is “seems.” As in “seems to you.” Bigots always think it’s everyone else that’s the bigot, actual meanings of words be damned.

    So, you’re wrong in your bigoted, self-serving, SJW opinions. Have a nice day.

  • jdb1972

    See above. I explained the difference. Not my fault if you didn’t read it.

    Also, you must have missed the dialogue Lucas inserted to show that Luke had flown before on Tatooine and was a pretty good shot while flying. (There was also the character of Biggs demonstrating this, but he was cut, so I can forgive the uninitiated not getting that one.)

    Like I said in the part you chose not to read, “note the lengths Lucas went to to avoid such.”

  • jdb1972

    I have no doubt you can’t understand normal people. You probably need a lot of therapy first. And have to reach mental adulthood. Have a nice day, kid.

  • gayarelessthan1percent

    There’s an insidious agenda behind the evil empire regardless of how small the affected minority is represented.

  • modok baby

    Haha. Okay.

    To clarify, my position is not “everyone is better than white men” as you characterize, but “the kinds of broad archetypes that populate our modern cultural behemoths like Star Wars can and should be embodied by people of any race, gender, or orientation, and it’s cool if the people in charge of them are mindful not to fall into choosing straight white men disproportionately without compelling reason.” Not even trying to attribute any intent to anyone who casts or creates a white male character, or say anyone is wrong for not caring about it either.

    And your stance is…? Just that anyone who talks about representation is a bigot? Or is there more that I’m missing? Serious question. Like, feeling excitement about the possibility of more types of people in something you’re a fan of, I know what it’s like to have a horse in that race, even if I know not everyone will feel the same way. I can imagine caring about that because I do, easy, but I want to ‘get’ your investment in this dialog.. if it’s just a fun rhetorical exercise, well, hope you had fun, but if more.. You don’t care about race/gender/orientation etc. one way or another, correct? (Which is fine!) But you do care about me and others caring about it? So if I follow, your investment in this is just in making us all realize we shouldn’t care, and that the bigotry you think we’re espousing is either just stupid or genuinely harmful? What would you ultimately like: we all stop talking/thinking about it, but the movies could naturally end up full of queer black characters/actors as long as they’re good? Or, if I’m wrong (trying not to assume anything, just piece together what you’ve written) feel free to let me know what you’re trying to get across. Or don’t say anything and rest assured that I’m not making any further assumptions in the absence of words. :)

  • Guy Incognito

    Maybe someone should tell JJ that the Star Wars canon that was rebooted around his movie last year already features a couple gay characters.

  • BrianMichaelBendover

    It’s also time for a loving incestuous relationship. Rey finds out she has long lost brother and they fall in love. It’s no less unnatural than two men.

    If you want gay characters in Star Wars JJ, go watch a gay porn parody. It’s bad enough Zionist peodophile Neil Druckmann and Brian Michael Bendis want to throw it down our throats.

  • Kylo Rey

    A man’s penis was constructed to enter a woman’s vagina. Not go up the asshole of another man.

  • Michael

    Well that’s away to kill a franchise. Putting a political situation in movies that will annoy people. If I see two guys kissing or two girls kissing in a Star Wars movie, I’m never watching this **** again or any other Star Wars movie. Makes me wish Lucas never sold Star Wars to Disney now and idiots like JJ to ruin them. Nothing is sacred anymore.

  • Fuzzy Barbarian

    More Finnpoe!

    As long as this stuff doesn’t overtake story and character development, I’m fine with it. That’s my go-to response to any time something like this comes up.

  • Let’sBeFriends

    Sure there’s classes to help with reading; sadly there’s no kind of school to acclimate you to the real world.

  • David Dodson

    You think casting a black woman in startrek (the original) wasn’t political?

  • def

    Always baffling that a person can believe in wookies and Yodas, but same sex experiences ruin a sacred thing. Star Wars should have third and fourth sexes and actually push concepts… Earth politics are irrelevant to good stories.
    Stop demanding fantasy movies subscribe to primitive religious ideas.

  • def

    Yes, it seems he is.

  • def

    I don’t think he’s stating one is more important than another (did he say so?). I think he was implying that gender and race isn’t the only thing worth representing in a series like this. Already, they’ve got a female lead, a black lead, and a major Latino character. I was overjoyed to see Ken Leung appear, and I hope he was cast with the sequel in mind. Not because Leung is Asian, but because he’s a compelling, charismatic actor.
    I don’t want SW to resort to tokenism just to check boxes, but I think they will make more compelling movies by having more demensions. And treating straight white males as default in science fantasy is stupid.

  • def

    You have to admit, it would be pretty cool though. We’ve seen dozens of movies where the male-female chemistry is unmistakable, and we’re so happy to see the pair get it on. That tie fighter scene with them was pure chemistry, it would be great to see them kiss. Not because Tumblr says so, but because organic and compelling story writing says so.

  • def

    The First Order demands status quo and order, SJW want free choice…. Hmmm. I always wonder, would Luke have been about no other races and no other genders/ sexualities, or about everybody be as they want. Personally, I feel Luke would support diversity. After all, wasn’t the Empire universally white men activist dudes?

  • Jay Merighyay

    Most likely less than One percent. If you consider L, B, and T exist only in their imagination.

  • Sup Syup

    See, even that is too gross for Star Was.

  • ggyohem

    This midget needs to be denounced the moment he opens his mouth. You let this guy carry on and he’ll ruin another of your beloved franchises. Just watch.

  • Ben

    SJW think freedom is that everyone has to agree with their lifestyle and the perceived racism in everything….if you disagree or offer logical rebuttals your considered a racist, bigot, transphobic. Etc etc….so how again are you for freedom? Liberals…empowering government and carrying on modern Nazism one law at a time…

  • jhjhkjhjkh

    SJW are activists, pure and simple. Diversity is their stated goal, but “diversity” is code for hate. They are more empire than anything else that we have today because they are embraced by the system.

  • def

    Such a clown shoes argument… The system, run by straight white men, are not SJW (as if those people even exist, and aren’t just code by straight white men for not liking other people). Grow up, dude.

  • def

    Yes, dude, Nazism, which aimed to destroy anything deviating from the the golden standard of the ubermensch is the same as encouraging and supporting diversity… through no laws…. Look in the mirror, see a therapist, etc etc. Or better yet, become a writer, move up through the chain, and make sure episode 12 doesn’t have female leads, black stormtroopers and so on if you want to prevent the fourth reich.

    Do you honestly think Luke would attack SJW or would he support representation of everybody? Would Luke dox someone for supporting diversity? Serious question, which side would Luke take?

    Fandom dudes really seem to miss the essential message of their heroes when they go on about SJW. Captain America would never behave like them. He would shame them.

  • Derek Metaltron

    But it’s only considered ‘chemistry’ because many of us seem so conditioned to ignore if friends are just that, friends. We’ve gotten from suggested implication for Kirk and Spock, Steve and Tony and Holmes and Watson to having our liking for solid platonic relationships criticised because the worst parts of fandom wants them to get it on. And Finn and Poe haven’t shown any indication of being gay, least as far as I’m concerned. If Lucasfilm shows try to crowbar it in like Marvel ended up doing with Iceman rather than having solid engaging characters who we know to be of that ilk from the start, they’re only going to irritate many aspects of fandom.

  • Derek Metaltron

    And Doctor Who does it right too, because Jack Harkness was awesome and we knew the guy was omnisexual from the start.

  • the_Hold_Steady

    Wait. C3PO and R2D2 aren’t gay?

  • Ben

    The problem with the newest Star Wars is the BEAT YOU OVER THE HEAD SJW rhretoric. It’s tiresome and immature. We get it.. the female is a super duper powerful person “who don’t need no man” space ninja. And the Black Man is against the evil white supremacist big government… It would be adorable if the real life SJW weren’t voting to increase the power of the government at every turn (ie liberals and establishment politicians).

    SJW want only their perceived issued handled, but give no two seconds thought about how the other party is impacted by the policies the SJW crowed cry for. Let me break it down for you:

    -Powerful Female= Good!
    -Super Capable Minority (Black trumps all though)= good
    -White Male= EVIL!!! Let’s make this guy pay for the sins of his father’s past and because we want free stuff!I

    You see it in popular media, TV, hollywood and magazine. If your female, black, or latino, we have special months, organizations, heck even special TV channel for you (BET) for example. Where again is the White Entertainment Channel? Where is the White American Male month where we talk about the great things white Americans have done for society.

    If your a white male with a middle class income, somehow your the enemy, and you should have your taxes increased to somehow pay for the never ending demands of a bunch of whiny, ill informed, childish millennials who’ve never worked a day in their lives.

  • Nemo

    I say J.J. Abrams should play the new gay character.

  • rpi

    I’ve never understood this sort of statement. You’re ok with alien races and faster than light travel, but acknowledging that you’re not the only sort of person who likes these stories is uninteresting and not fun? These stories aren’t yours, you don’t hold sole ownership of what is going to be in them and what is fun.

  • jdb1972

    That whoosh you heard? It was the point flying over your head.

  • jdb1972

    Heh. Always funny how SJWs think they don’t live in a fantasy world.

  • jdb1972

    My stance is exactly what I said it was.

  • def

    In your paranoid world view. From my point of view, all you’re saying is different equals bad.

  • def

    There are always going to be lots of platonic friends-characters, we’re in no danger of running out of them.
    I for one enjoy seeing new takes on characters. I’m 40, straight, and have been a diehard X-fan since I bought issue 200 in 1985, and Iceman was always one of my favorites, coming from snowy Canada, and after reading his solo story in Bizarre Adventures 27. I like that he is now gay. It gives him emotional texture in retrospect, his years in the closet.
    I don’t want to see comics and movies 100% gayified, that would be as silly as having them 100% straight. I would like to see them gayified by about 5-10%. More points of view = more stories.

  • Derek Metaltron

    Sure, as long as it’s done tactfully I got no problems with that sort of level, as you say when the world is filled with all sorts of people mixing it up in fiction is fine, long as the character and not the stereotype comes first. Case in point for me, I like Doctor Who’s Madame Vastra not because she’s a Lesbian and married in Victorian times but because she’s an ass kicking Lizard Woman from the Dawn of Time with two swords and a mind which inspired Sherlock Holmes. So as long as it’s that the way it’s done it’s all awesome. :)

  • penguintruth

    Representation is not a “political statement”.

  • Numbscray

    Then you’ll be happy to wait for Star Wars CXX!

  • weafyt

    C3PO is gay. R2D2 is in prison.

  • Yousuckdicgh

    The system is currently stacked against white men. You are a clown. The establishment is currently opposed to everything white and male. Get a clue.

  • def

    Vote Trump then. Last I saw, white men were doing pretty well. It’s so sad that the demographic that runs the country, owns the country, and controls the media has managed to pick up this victim status somehow. It’s really sad. I’m a white male who managed (job, family, house) and you can too if you try harder in your own life rather than complaining that the system is stacked against you. Good luck getting out of your hole of self-pity, blaming the system for your personal problems. You can do it!

  • defisdumass

    Wake the F up. Embrace diversity and the self loathing of “white guilt” and you are the party of hate and put simply no better than the Nazis who came before. There is no morality amongst the crowd; embrace it at your own peril.

  • Ben

    My world view you let people be what they want to be and not force laws on them to force them to do something against their beliefs(gay wedding cakes) . In my world, liberty and freedom means you take personal responsibility for ones actions and not point fingers at others or “racism” because your not where you want to be in life (SJW’s/millennials). In my world view, hard work trumps everything.. smarts, luck, inheritance.. all of it means NOTHING, unless your hungry for more.

    You want something, go out of the cave, kill it, and drag it home. No excuses, no lame crying. COWBOY UP or get out the way if others want more.

  • def

    Has to reply with a fake name. Blame others for his personal failures. Remarkable. Try harder and you will succeed in your life. Stop blaming others.

  • def

    SJW didn’t produce Star Wars. Disney kid. As far as I know, they weren’t legislated into producing it. I suggest rising up in the ranks of Disney and making the movie you want, you know, hard work and so on, rather than getting angry over movies. Companies make the movies they want to. No legislation at all.

    I don’t know what gay wedding cakes have to do with Star Wars.

  • Suckitbunker

    How do you feel properly identified with a hate group. Getting defensive? Good. Get used to it, D-bag!

  • Ben

    Lol…. No SJW didn’t… But Disney marketing to its largest market (millenials) did, and millenials by and large are full throttle SJW idiots. All emotion, no thinking or logic; and willing to hand over their freedom to a large “efficient” federal government one piece at a time.

    Your blind if you don’t see how Rey is not a social justice warrior construct… Super perfect female with no bad qualities (i.e. A Mary Sue). At least Luke was incompetent enough to get beat in his first lightsaber battle.. Oh and of course the token heroic black man (with his soon to be revealed gay Hispanic pilot/partner).. And let’s not forget the bad guy is of course white…

    Yeah… No SJW imagery here at all…/sarcasm

  • def

    But that is not legislation. Why get angry that people have different tastes than you? That really is what it comes down to. You’re equating way too much into this. Millenials wanting representation and Disney making it so is far removed from anything to do with the federal government. You would be happier if didn’t wrap the world up into a SJW conspiracy.

    I’m a 40 year old straight white male and I’d be happy to see a gay character. Maybe the movie would be for me. It couldn’t be worse than the Mary Sues that Annakin and Luke were. Anyway, best of luck in the future in getting the movies you want.

  • def

    Since I don’t hate people, it seems pretty silly. I guess I don’t put too much stock in what angry, anonymous dudes on the Internet write. Do you think a healthy person would read what you’ve written and conclude that you’re a happy person? Try not abusing and insulting people you’ve never met because of Star Wars, you might feel better.

    Luke Skywalker would walk away from you in disgust, as it is, and anyone who loves Star Wars knows it.

    And with that, I’m out of this thread. Too much anger in white male Americans. Too much entitlement that even a thing like Star Wars must perpetually be about them.

  • nailsin

    So C-3PO wasn’t gay?

  • Disqus

    Let’s not forget humans and banthas. I mean there are some really great and beautiful untold stories that really could use the right kind of exposure in the vast, cosmic odyssey that is the Star Wars universe.

  • gwangung

    Biogted. To a tee.

    But trolls know that.

  • gwangung

    Boy you’re really tying yourself up in knots about it….

  • Ashen

    Ahahahahaha.

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  • Ben

    Yah your blind…. The media, the government has been bludgeioning everyone over this SJW nonsense. Allowing spoiled millenials with no real work experience to complain about privilege, uncomfortable feelings, and safe spaces…. And if your a white male you are the enemy who has too much wealth and should be forced to give it to others by force.

    I don’t mind new characters, but I hate being bludgeoned to death with it… Ala Star Wars Force Awakens = A New Hope with more Mary Sue and tokenism…. Got to check off those diversity boxes….

  • Gary Muston

    My 2 cents… Star Wars is Science Fiction. Set a long time ago in a galaxy far away. We have Wookies, droids, and a HUGE number of other alien species.

    So, WHY do we want to limit relationships to what we have on earth? Why do you want to watch/make yet another film that is based on earth-type life?

    How about a species that isn’t “limited” to male and female? At the very least, something that isn’t 99% humanoid? Reptilian, perhaps, or even non-carbon based? Picture a relationship between two telepathic/empathic creatures, for instance. Or shape-shifters who laugh at limited creatures, who only have two genders to choose from. It doesn’t all have to be a carbon copy of earth.

    Be original.

    Diversity? The galaxy’s crawling with it, and it doesn’t need to look or act anything like we do.

    I’m going back to lurking now.

  • Gary Muston

    My 2 cents… Star Wars is Science Fiction. Set a long time ago in a galaxy far away. We have Wookies, droids, and a HUGE number of other alien species.

    So, WHY do we want to limit relationships to what we have on earth? Why do you want to watch/make yet another film that is based on earth-type life?

    How about a species that isn’t “limited” to male and female? At the very least, something that isn’t 99% humanoid? Reptilian, perhaps, or even non-carbon based? Picture a relationship between two telepathic/empathic creatures, for instance. Or shape-shifters who laugh at limited creatures, who only have two genders to choose from. It doesn’t all have to be a carbon copy of earth.

    Be original.

    Diversity? The galaxy’s crawling with it, and it doesn’t need to look or act anything like we do.

    I’m going back to lurking now.

  • def

    Again, it sounds more like an old guy complaining that the media isn’t catering to their own personal tastes like the good ol’ days. I warn my 60-something dad not to become an embarrassing grandpa, because, as conservative as he is, he knows he rolled his eyes at his grandpa back in the day. I try to take the idea that kids are always progressive, I was 20 years ago, and I don’t try to force the world to lock itself in amber as so many older folks do.

    Some stuff going on today, like trigger warnings and censoring university curriculum for the sake of sensitivity, I think is really unhealthy. But a female lead and a black secondary lead in Star Wars? A total non-issue. As with introducing a gay character. Two characters kiss when they meet. Or hold hands. Nobody cares. Not hardcore gay porn.

    You aren’t as angry and hateful as some in this comments thread, so I’ve had a discussion with you, and I appreciate that. All the same, much of what you’re discussing seems so far off the topic of Star Wars, I feel I’ve made my piece, it’s my last word on this. If you want to make the final last word on it, by all means, take it.

  • Brandon

    FU JJ. The Star Wars is not a political vehicle for your liberal political bullish*t. It’s an adventure story that features characters whose sex lives do not after. We watch them for the action and the adventure, not tot know who they are sleeping with and whether they are gay or bi or even straight. No one cares, because it is not part of the purpose of the story. If you want to attach your own sick interpretations and start including sex, go make a porno parody. You piece of monkey dung. Not everyone is wrapped up in the sick charateristics of a character like you liberal idiots.

  • Brandon

    FU JJ. The Star Wars is not a political vehicle for your liberal political bullish*t. It’s an adventure story that features characters whose sex lives do not after. We watch them for the action and the adventure, not tot know who they are sleeping with and whether they are gay or bi or even straight. No one cares, because it is not part of the purpose of the story. If you want to attach your own sick interpretations and start including sex, go make a porno parody. You piece of monkey dung. Not everyone is wrapped up in the sick charateristics of a character like you liberal idiots.

  • Anna Johnson

    After he broke up SPOCK/KIRK

  • http://picklepuss57.tumblr.com/ Picklepuss Dill

    On behalf of lesbians everywhere I’d like to apologize for any inconvenience we’ve caused you.

  • jdb1972

    Nope. Keep trying. You’ll get it eventually. Or the universe will die a long, lingering heat death first, in which case it won’t matter.

  • gaysroverrepresentedpropagana

    I like how you upvote your own comments to give them some sort of credibility. It’s obvious and pathetic. You are the perfect example of “troll.” Listen, one last time you little piece of miscreant. Your time is coming. When you and your hateful friends will find your backs up against the f_n wall.

  • Let’sBeFriends

    LOL at the fact you think I’m a SJW just because I acknowledge the existence of gay people in real life and think a staple of pop culture for 30+ years should step up it’s game to reflect as such. I mean, I know Star Wars in general is incredibly sexless and maybe that’s what resonates with you, but please.

  • def

    “Fear leads to anger. Angers leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”
    You will never be a Jedi, the Dark Side has already taken you. You have shown your anger and hate. And anyone who reads your post knows you’re suffering. Is the fear of homosexuality just because you’re closeted?
    You sound more like Kylo Ren than Luke Skywalker.

  • jdb1972

    Thanks for (unwittingly) defining what an SJW is. Have a good one.

  • jdb1972

    Thanks for (unwittingly) defining what an SJW is. Have a good one.

  • Let’sBeFriends

    And by the same process of rationale, thanks for (unwittingly) defining what a sterile bigot you are then.
    It’s truly pathetic that “SJW” has become this catch-all moniker used by certain people to brand someone, anyone, just to disavow their opinions. Enjoy your old straight, vanilla non “SJW” films while you can, because you and all entertainment that you love is going to be dragged into the 21st century kicking and screaming whether you like it or not.
    Signed, a realist.

  • Let’sBeFriends

    And by the same process of rationale, thanks for (unwittingly) defining what a sterile bigot you are then.
    It’s truly pathetic that “SJW” has become this catch-all moniker used by certain people to brand someone, anyone, just to disavow their opinions. Enjoy your old straight, vanilla non “SJW” films while you can, because you and all entertainment that you love is going to be dragged into the 21st century kicking and screaming whether you like it or not.
    Signed, a realist.

  • jdb1972

    Yawn. Bored now. Couldn’t be bothered to click on the “see more” tab to expand your SJW rant.

  • jdb1972

    Yawn. Bored now. Couldn’t be bothered to click on the “see more” tab to expand your SJW rant.

  • Let’sBeFriends

    Your rolling into the submissive position and complete mental backdown has been noted for all to see. GG

  • jdb1972

    Your fantasies are as boring as your inane rants.

  • jdb1972

    Your fantasies are as boring as your inane rants.

  • Let’sBeFriends

    You have a weird aversion to blatant reality. Everyone now can see you backing down from a “SJW”. It’s OK that you can’t hang, we all have our limits cowpoke.

  • jdb1972

    You have a weird way of writing nonsense, SJW carebear. Hint: stop picking random nouns and verbs, drowning them in modifiers, and slapping commas in the wrong places.

  • Let’sBeFriends

    Hahaha I’m a carebear now? I’m dragging you – but I’m the carebear. This is too funny. Did you know I support the casting of a white actor as Iron Fist in the upcoming Marvel Netflix show? I mean, I don’t care what you label me, the fact you continually need to is just a continuing beacon of your lack of intellect to myself and anyone else reading so it’s win/win for me, but I’m sure it’s blowing your tiny mind as well as crumbling the feeble lone ad hominem “defense” you have. Oh no, where else can I pigeonhole someone who disagrees with my narrowminded rhetoric? How completely amateur.
    Secondly, 6 incredibly needy replies later and you haven’t even bothered to explain how having a gay character in the Star Wars universe would a) be making a “political statement” or b) unravel an “adventure story”. Seriously, about time you backed up your nonsense or gtfo.

  • jdb1972

    Still boring, carebear.

  • jdb1972

    Still boring, carebear.

  • Let’sBeFriends

    Just as I thought: even when requested you’re too timid to back up your own argument. Looks like you’re the only one here afraid to leave their safe space, pumpkin. Game, set, match.

  • jdb1972

    Your fingers keep typing, but all I read is, “blah blah blah blah.”

  • Let’sBeFriends

    Lol, born in 1972 but still a complete child. Blah blah blah? What was it you said?
    “Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit, I take it?”
    Your white flag has long been noted, troll.

  • jdb1972

    I’m so shocked you don’t know the difference between a lack of reading comprehension and a lack of ability to write anything interesting. Keep trying. After all, if an infinite number of monkeys can eventually compose the works of Shakespeare, you’ve got a shot at a coherent reply. Possibly before the heat death of the universe.

  • Let’sBeFriends

    Haha, what an entitled schmuck you are. I’m not here to entertain you. You’ve been asked point blank to explain your position intelligently and you’ve instead ducked while playing the child, jdb1972. I know you’re hard up for attention with you begging me to “keep trying” but since you’ve submissively rolled over it’s apparent you’re afraid of being picked apart by the smarter person and my job here is done.
    Bye Felicia!~

  • jdb1972

    There you go with your weird fantasies again.